We have a common culture and heritage @Zavjeru

Saying so makes me wonder if you been to a Slavic nation

It’s not the same

The communists made artificial divisions

Slavs must be united, the communist division and splitting of our people is pathetic and treasonous

Poles and Russians have always been divided

for example

Not always

Poles took advantage of the civil war in Russia to steal territory

before the soviet union was finalized

In the Pan-Slavic Movement meetings in the 1800's they expressed interest in a pan Slavic state

And both polish and Russian deligates were willing to work together

Southern Slavs have no interest in being part of a United state. They want independence.

Slavs are more than poles and Russians

Southern Slavs attended the meetings

They want independence

The meeting was unanimous in wanting a pan Slavic state, but it had no binding legal power

If Slavs don't want to colonize how did Russia become the biggest country on Earth by colonizing?

What was said 100 years ago has no bearing on what the current generation wants

They didn't "colonize" smh

They literally did.

They repelled the Mongols and then went further

They always do this

...

They waited hundreds of years to push back???

The colonization of Siberia was in no way defensive.

It was pure imperialism, everyone was doing it.

And yes there were people there.

Uniting your people <:unequal:473954748517842954> colonization

????

They are Asian!

But there were no Russians east of the Urals.

The uniting happened west of the Urals.

I'm talking about the Siberia issue

they didn't conquered east of the Urals, they were trying to flee from the baby eating Kraut

As for Eastern eurals, it's not to the extent of the westerners, and it is directly connected to Russia, the westerners went to foreign land.

The conquest of Siberia was commercial to control the fur trade, and it started off as retaliatory to Tatar raids.

Fuck this braindead revisionist uniting muh people garbage

Read a book.

oh, i forgot how much money fur trade made

The claim that Russians didn't want to control shitskins is pretty moronic because a primary facet of Siberian colonization was exacting tribute from natives.

Sounds like communist Propaganda but ok

No, it's history that was established before the Bolsheviks even existed.

You just don't read.

No where near the extent of shitskinning the westerners did

No it's actually often compared to it.

Look at the Russian land mass. Also don’t forget Alaska was once part of Russia.

Russia did the same thing to natives that other Europeans did.

I've never seen it compared to western colonization.

Doing that to natives is natural, it's not immediately equal to muh colonization

If anything the existence of Russian fur traders is a myth. The Russians coerced natives into paying a fur tax rather than getting it for themselves. While natives died of disease and genocide settlers replaced them and started getting fur for themselves.

Why is it not colonization? Have you never heard of Vladivostok?

Does that city just not exist to you?

The Russians colonized Siberia.

Anon you have no fucking clue what you're talking about bud.

Just stop pressing enter.

Remove that key from your keyboard.

I mean they even tried to force convert natives. They did the exact same thing every European country did.

They're not any different.

The "colonization" of Africa is less colonization than what the Russians did honestly.

Nvmd, I just googled what I was about to ask, message deleted

I'm curious about what your question was.

It was something about Novosiberisk

Even so, Slavic unity should exist to a degree

Strongly disagree. South Slavs have an extremely divergent culture from Russia.

Russia was created by vikings.

Poland existed independently with its own culture for centuries before being destroyed.

There's not a lot of unity that can exist.

Truth is Slavs are a barbaric race prone to internecine warfare.

Southern Slavs are infected by a bunch of fucked Muslims

The currt culture is unifiable

Current*

I really doubt it.

You have not only the Catholic-Orthodox divide, but the Balkans are in shambles and all of Eastern Europe hates Russia.

This is probably the worst time in history for any Pan-Slavism to take root.

Communist divisions

Which can be overcome

I didn't say we need it now

No, it existed before the Bolsheviks.

Poles have always hated Russia, Balts have always hated Russia (although they aren't Slavic), Balkan reception to Pan-Slavism has always been lukewarm at best.

Ukrops and Belarusians are basically fake invented nationalities.

Croats will never want to unite on many cultural divides including religion. They are catholic.

Even if Ukrainians are fake they hate Russia.

Czechs and Slovaks are very content to remain in the sphere of Western Europe.

Russia was a brutal colonizer and imperialist before the Soviet Union and is still doing that today.

Like I said, barbaric race.

For the security of Western civilization them and the Chinese can sink into the sea and provide some nice coastline for more civilized folk.

Degenerate

You don't even know what that word means.

Preserving Western civilization is the opposite of degenerate.

Think before you open your mouth.

Western Civilization is degenerate, so no

Which is why the Russians spent centuries trying to emulate it.

Probably just communist lies though!

Lol no, Russians see it as their duty to give western Europe the culture and spirituality they are so bankrupt of

Uhhhhhhhhh.

Peter the Great certainly thought otherwise.

Peter the great isn't alive is he

No.

I'm talking of now