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2018-04-02 23:17:31 UTC

But this is the presidential election of 2016 and isn't necessarily reflective of a meaningful rightward trend in Asian men.

2018-04-02 23:17:52 UTC

I'd love to see how they vote where they're most plentiful like NYC, Cali, WA and so on.

2018-04-02 23:18:22 UTC

I'm talking of the white voter groups by the way

2018-04-02 23:18:26 UTC

Asians are also distributed across the country in a way which doesn't benefit the GOP either. They tend to occupy hard blue areas.

2018-04-02 23:18:36 UTC

We have to focus on white voters

2018-04-02 23:18:39 UTC

^

2018-04-02 23:19:16 UTC

Asians are distribtued in areas like california

2018-04-02 23:19:18 UTC

new york

2018-04-02 23:19:25 UTC

winning them wont do shit for a presidential eelction

2018-04-02 23:19:54 UTC

Trump largely failed on the childcare issue.

2018-04-02 23:19:55 UTC

If we can get a very large turnout among them, and for us, boom, we win in a landslide. It's not worth it to pander to minorities.

2018-04-02 23:20:10 UTC

He could have used it as an effective welfare concession to poorer, blue collar families.

2018-04-02 23:20:22 UTC

And help lock up his Rust Belt clinch next election and into the midterms.

2018-04-02 23:20:40 UTC

Even if Romney got 72% of the hispanic vote, he still would have lost, but 4% more of the white vote would have won him the election.

2018-04-02 23:20:54 UTC

It's very clear the GOP policy has to shift.

2018-04-02 23:21:03 UTC

Dont non whites have lower turnout rates?

2018-04-02 23:21:09 UTC

Mostly.

2018-04-02 23:21:10 UTC

They do

2018-04-02 23:21:13 UTC

Blacks have marginally lower.

2018-04-02 23:21:17 UTC

good

2018-04-02 23:21:18 UTC

And in some cases, higher.

2018-04-02 23:21:27 UTC

However, we need to be the highest we can be

2018-04-02 23:21:37 UTC

It's a wonder how much free time to vote a person has when they don't have a job.

2018-04-02 23:21:43 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/430507152008806400/Electorate_Race_Stats_Turnout_Growth_1984-2016.jpg

2018-04-02 23:22:32 UTC

And we have to shift as a party to get this increased white vote turnout to happen. From free trade capitalism purism to more nationalist pro-family and pro-tradition platforms.

2018-04-02 23:22:41 UTC

@[Lex] what no it doesn't

2018-04-02 23:22:55 UTC

I can clearly see 'hispanics' keyed in the red

2018-04-02 23:23:20 UTC

Some Hispanics identify as white some identify as Hispanic

2018-04-02 23:23:26 UTC

Never mind, the 28% was a collection of all voters.

2018-04-02 23:23:36 UTC

They're a minority's you can't question it

2018-04-02 23:23:37 UTC

Since this is purely the electorate.

2018-04-02 23:23:42 UTC

Not the entire population.

2018-04-02 23:24:16 UTC

As you can see, white turnout was highest for several decades (possibly ever) for Trump

2018-04-02 23:24:39 UTC

Hopeuflly we can keep it at the same level for the midterms

2018-04-02 23:24:39 UTC

I expect a very deep depression this midterms.

2018-04-02 23:24:53 UTC

Nah, impossible. Midterm and presidential turnout always ebbs and flows.

2018-04-02 23:24:54 UTC

Trump needs to do something big

2018-04-02 23:25:02 UTC

he pissed off his entire base last friday

2018-04-02 23:25:24 UTC

We just need to make sure it doesn't collapse to an extent whereby the GOP loses the House and fails to expand its Senate lead.

2018-04-02 23:25:31 UTC

We definitely need to get that vote in the next few decades. Either a direct appeal, or something more indirect, but with the same effect.

2018-04-02 23:25:39 UTC

I dont thnink we need to worry about the house

2018-04-02 23:25:43 UTC

house should be failry safe

2018-04-02 23:25:46 UTC

we need to maintain the senate

2018-04-02 23:25:51 UTC

if we lose just 2 seats

2018-04-02 23:25:52 UTC

not maintain

2018-04-02 23:25:54 UTC

No, the Senate is much safer.

2018-04-02 23:25:56 UTC

Increase

2018-04-02 23:26:04 UTC

^

2018-04-02 23:26:04 UTC

We have to increase in the senate

2018-04-02 23:26:09 UTC

Senate is a lot safer

2018-04-02 23:26:10 UTC

how is the senate safer than the house?

2018-04-02 23:26:18 UTC

There's just less margin for error

2018-04-02 23:26:33 UTC

Even Button Mash will say that it's virtually impossible to lose the senate

2018-04-02 23:26:49 UTC

What are the odds of losing the house

2018-04-02 23:26:50 UTC

are they high

2018-04-02 23:26:50 UTC

Many more Democratic seats in the Senate are toss-ups. something like 6-8. Only two GOP seats in the senate are toss-ups.

2018-04-02 23:26:51 UTC

or low

2018-04-02 23:26:52 UTC

Button mash is really pessimistic

2018-04-02 23:26:54 UTC

Also, only certain seats are up in a midterm senate election

2018-04-02 23:26:55 UTC
2018-04-02 23:27:14 UTC

In a midterm house election, they put every seat up for reelection

2018-04-02 23:27:27 UTC

56% that the GOP loses the House by a reliable analyst.

2018-04-02 23:27:29 UTC

This year we have a very good map in the senate

2018-04-02 23:27:36 UTC

are we expected to gain seats

2018-04-02 23:27:37 UTC
2018-04-02 23:27:38 UTC

(at this moment)

2018-04-02 23:27:59 UTC

it actually is 56% i thought you were trolling

2018-04-02 23:28:01 UTC

@Swamp Killer very few democratic seats are toss-ups in the House. Over 30 are toss-ups for the GOP in the House.

2018-04-02 23:28:03 UTC

for now it's 56%

2018-04-02 23:28:23 UTC

The House looks terrible.

2018-04-02 23:28:30 UTC

but most polls are against us

2018-04-02 23:28:33 UTC

remember the trump polls

2018-04-02 23:28:36 UTC

Everyone single one.

2018-04-02 23:28:50 UTC

the polls have been somewhat prophetic in the special elections

2018-04-02 23:29:07 UTC

We can't keep saying "Trump polls" when all the polls are against us. They've been correct for most recent elections, within a margin of error.

2018-04-02 23:29:25 UTC

The Trump election was an incredible anomaly.

2018-04-02 23:29:36 UTC

We definitely have to make them look better, a lot better

2018-04-02 23:30:17 UTC

Trump has to bring his approval up since his lines up pretty accurately with the results in the districts

2018-04-02 23:30:42 UTC

Are most of the tossups in white blue collar areas?

2018-04-02 23:30:56 UTC

https://media.cq.com/electionguide - good interactive map.

2018-04-02 23:31:13 UTC
2018-04-02 23:31:22 UTC

Most, I'd say.

2018-04-02 23:31:37 UTC

Others are getting swamped by the Mexican invasion.

2018-04-02 23:31:39 UTC

we definitely need to shift to big tent

2018-04-02 23:31:45 UTC

e.g. TX-23.

2018-04-02 23:31:48 UTC

oh god

2018-04-02 23:31:53 UTC

& AZ-02.

2018-04-02 23:32:39 UTC

CA-10, CA-21, CA-25, CA-49, CA-39.

2018-04-02 23:32:40 UTC

The GOP needs to be the big tent America First party if we want to remain politically relevant

2018-04-02 23:32:40 UTC

These numbers are depressing

2018-04-02 23:32:54 UTC

Many of these seats are toss-ups because the GOP rep retired.

2018-04-02 23:33:13 UTC

rip

2018-04-02 23:33:22 UTC

so we have more tossups than dems

2018-04-02 23:33:23 UTC

in the house

2018-04-02 23:33:36 UTC

we're betting on jungle primaries in California to maybe bail us out

2018-04-02 23:33:58 UTC

Im guessing its gonna be between deleon and feinstein

2018-04-02 23:34:03 UTC

in california

2018-04-02 23:34:05 UTC

@Swamp Killer many, many, many more.

2018-04-02 23:35:22 UTC

Debbie Stabenow's district could be flipped from solid by this smart black Republican in Michigan but that's very unlikely.

2018-04-02 23:35:27 UTC

but that's the senate.

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