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2018-03-25 16:38:32 UTC

Who cares?

2018-03-25 16:38:38 UTC

Most Dems never vote.

2018-03-25 16:38:47 UTC

dude

2018-03-25 16:38:50 UTC

Even if they are registered.

2018-03-25 16:39:20 UTC

Democrats have had a 75%+ turnout since 2017

2018-03-25 16:39:31 UTC

Republicans have had a 55%+ turnout

2018-03-25 16:39:35 UTC

In special elections.

2018-03-25 16:40:27 UTC

During midterm elections, the opposition **always** sees higher turnout

2018-03-25 16:40:37 UTC

Democrats are energized

2018-03-25 16:40:42 UTC

Republicans are complacent

2018-03-25 16:40:52 UTC

it's the reverse of 2010 and 2014

2018-03-25 16:41:04 UTC

With Obama out of the White House,

2018-03-25 16:41:14 UTC

Republicans have no reason to go out and vote

2018-03-25 16:41:20 UTC

Voters vote "no"

2018-03-25 16:41:26 UTC

they don't vote "yes"

2018-03-25 16:43:27 UTC

Yup.

2018-03-25 16:43:36 UTC

Thank you for agreeing!

2018-03-25 16:44:06 UTC

Which is why we need to rile up the base.

2018-03-25 16:44:09 UTC

The elections in the current state of politics are fucked

2018-03-25 16:44:22 UTC

@FLanon the rules of political gravity still apply

2018-03-25 16:44:31 UTC

even if Trump pulled a rabbit out of the hat in 2016

2018-03-25 16:44:37 UTC

With good candidates and "THEY'RE TAKING OUR GUNS"

2018-03-25 16:44:58 UTC

@Pielover19 @FLanon I wrote an op-ed explaining why that might not work

2018-03-25 16:45:04 UTC

Trump has to something big or he's done, the consequence of his actions have to be rectified or he's done, no matter what happens on our end.

2018-03-25 16:45:06 UTC

It doesn't help when Trump,

2018-03-25 16:45:13 UTC

the de-facto head of the Republican Party,

2018-03-25 16:45:23 UTC

is talking about BANNING GUN STOCKS

2018-03-25 16:45:35 UTC

*Bump

2018-03-25 16:45:42 UTC

AND RAISING THE MINIMUM AGE TO BUY A GUN TO 21

2018-03-25 16:46:04 UTC

That was straight up retardation, I'm with you 100%.

2018-03-25 16:46:06 UTC

How does that help make gunowners go out and vote Republican?

2018-03-25 16:46:09 UTC

HOW

2018-03-25 16:46:22 UTC

Preaching to the choir.

2018-03-25 16:46:23 UTC

THEY WILL VOTE FOR DEMOCRATS LIKE CONOR LAMB

2018-03-25 16:46:26 UTC

He's going to try to bundle that with arming teachers and other such measures.

2018-03-25 16:46:34 UTC

WHAT

2018-03-25 16:46:37 UTC

Doesn't matter too much

2018-03-25 16:46:38 UTC

THAT'S STUPID

2018-03-25 16:46:43 UTC

Then, it will fail.

2018-03-25 16:46:52 UTC

HIS BASE WILL CRUCIFY HIM FOR THAT KIND OF COMPROMISE

2018-03-25 16:46:53 UTC

He has to stand on what his base voted for him on

2018-03-25 16:47:08 UTC

By no circumstances can he bend.

2018-03-25 16:47:21 UTC

That was nothing but straight idiocy

2018-03-25 16:47:40 UTC

I can believe that Trump has no real intention to enact gun control,

2018-03-25 16:47:45 UTC

but it's stupid, stupid strategy

2018-03-25 16:48:11 UTC

He will say he tried to pass the legislation and get brownie points from moderates while not pissing off his base too much.

2018-03-25 16:48:51 UTC

winning over 1 point of the moderates is meaningless when you lose 5 points of your own base

2018-03-25 16:49:05 UTC

He wont lose them.

2018-03-25 16:49:15 UTC

In 2020, atleast.

2018-03-25 16:49:33 UTC

They will realize that Trump is much better than someone like Biden and still vote R.

2018-03-25 16:49:41 UTC

Just less enthusiastically.

2018-03-25 16:49:43 UTC

at some point the "bipartisan" rhetoric begins to hurt him.

2018-03-25 16:49:48 UTC

^

2018-03-25 16:49:57 UTC

This is not the way to go

2018-03-25 16:50:14 UTC

You need to also understand,

2018-03-25 16:50:26 UTC

Moderates will NEVER cozy up to Trump

2018-03-25 16:50:30 UTC

Even if there is no intention, the people who vote Trump aren't voting for compromise.

2018-03-25 16:50:41 UTC

not in the numbers that could carry him to victory

2018-03-25 16:50:53 UTC

Trump needs to maximize his support among conservatives

2018-03-25 16:50:53 UTC

The only way I can see moderates easing up on Trump is a major NK win.

2018-03-25 16:51:08 UTC

The only way.

2018-03-25 16:51:11 UTC

Trump needs to enthuse his base

2018-03-25 16:51:22 UTC

Trump is a smart guy.

2018-03-25 16:51:29 UTC

if 100% of the people who voted for him voted in 2018,

2018-03-25 16:51:37 UTC

he'd in a landslide

2018-03-25 16:51:38 UTC

He's not omnipotent though.

2018-03-25 16:51:53 UTC

but that won't happen if he continues to alienate his own base

2018-03-25 16:52:14 UTC

I would wait and see.

2018-03-25 16:52:19 UTC

If you want to do bipartisan messages right, look at SOTU.

2018-03-25 16:52:31 UTC

Where this whole budget thing concludes in.

2018-03-25 16:52:40 UTC

I spoke to at least a dozen people from states across the country,

2018-03-25 16:52:42 UTC

That tweet is the wrong way to do it.

2018-03-25 16:52:47 UTC

Trump supporters since 2011,

2018-03-25 16:52:58 UTC

they said they're not voting Republicans in November

2018-03-25 16:53:06 UTC

and they won't be voting for Trump in 2020

2018-03-25 16:53:17 UTC

Like I said.

2018-03-25 16:53:26 UTC

Let's see where the millitary wall thing goes.

2018-03-25 16:53:38 UTC

If that works out, boom.

2018-03-25 16:53:41 UTC

Base is back.

2018-03-25 16:53:50 UTC

If not, then Trump really screwed up.

2018-03-25 16:54:03 UTC

Trump can still win back the base.

2018-03-25 16:54:23 UTC

He just needs to play his cards right and do something like building the wall with the military.

2018-03-25 16:54:32 UTC

Yeah

2018-03-25 16:54:33 UTC

And also,

2018-03-25 16:54:42 UTC

As this fades from memory,

2018-03-25 16:54:48 UTC

I won't excuse the tweet, but ultimately I know it'll be forgotten

2018-03-25 16:54:48 UTC

The reactions will be less extreme.

2018-03-25 16:55:18 UTC

Some of those guys will come back as new things push out the budget.

2018-03-25 16:55:31 UTC

We've all cooled down since Friday.

2018-03-25 16:55:38 UTC

And I think more will follow.

2018-03-25 16:56:08 UTC

In any case, what Trump needs to do to bring back my trust is get a real 2000 mile wall 100% funded, or arrest Hillary Clinton.

2018-03-25 16:56:11 UTC

I haven't

2018-03-25 16:56:19 UTC

I'm still enraged as all hell

2018-03-25 16:56:55 UTC

My opinion to him is still soured, but I'm going to have some more nuance about it

2018-03-25 16:57:26 UTC

Breitbart rn

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/427511340429737992/1521995289198.png

2018-03-25 16:57:37 UTC

You've cooled down a bit.

2018-03-25 16:57:52 UTC

Who's this in reference to?

2018-03-25 16:58:01 UTC

Trump's tweets this morning

2018-03-25 16:58:08 UTC

No, not the image

2018-03-25 16:58:41 UTC

Button.

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