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2019-02-26 01:20:37 UTC

Im not a flat earther, but its probably because its on the other side of the globe

2019-02-26 01:20:49 UTC

Yea more then likely

2019-02-26 01:22:29 UTC

Most flat earthers answer that it only lights up half of the earth using a campfire or something as an example, but u can see a campfire outside of the area that is being lit up

2019-02-26 01:25:21 UTC

A sun would light up each side of a flat earth instantly, but it doesnt.

2019-02-26 01:25:42 UTC

Yea

2019-02-26 01:27:29 UTC

U should also be able to see the ice wall if u went on a high mountain and got a telescope

2019-02-26 01:35:03 UTC

@tha cheeseburger the sun is close

2019-02-26 01:35:12 UTC

And

2019-02-26 01:35:41 UTC

Does not change the fact that night should not be a thing

2019-02-26 01:35:44 UTC

And light disappears as it gets farther from you

2019-02-26 01:35:56 UTC

?????????

2019-02-26 01:36:11 UTC

Yes it's called light and optical slant

2019-02-26 01:36:34 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/538929818834698260/549766695942750209/FEEarthBestProof.gif

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/538929818834698260/549766697230270465/giphy_8.gif

2019-02-26 01:37:47 UTC

That top one is on a globe

2019-02-26 01:38:32 UTC

The top one is on a flat earth with a dome.

2019-02-26 01:39:03 UTC

So the sun is like a flashlight

2019-02-26 01:39:20 UTC

And directs it's light?

2019-02-26 01:39:33 UTC

Just like in real life.

2019-02-26 01:39:53 UTC

K u should still be able to see the sun just not be in the area lit up

2019-02-26 01:40:01 UTC

As for your claim you could climb to a high mountain and see the icewall

2019-02-26 01:40:09 UTC

@Citizen Z the sun directs it's light?

2019-02-26 01:40:11 UTC

Incorrect

2019-02-26 01:40:36 UTC

@Ninja8flash its light isnt infinite due to its proximity or reflection

2019-02-26 01:40:44 UTC

?

2019-02-26 01:40:57 UTC

Its proximity to the surface

2019-02-26 01:41:03 UTC

Oh

2019-02-26 01:41:06 UTC

Is the sun inside or outside the firmament?

2019-02-26 01:41:15 UTC

Dont know.

2019-02-26 01:41:17 UTC

But then it would be sorta just like dim

2019-02-26 01:41:21 UTC

Also if you go to the point where is gets dark and just move back and forward it should be able to see the sun and then not see it then see it then not, by that logic

2019-02-26 01:41:24 UTC

On the other side

2019-02-26 01:41:52 UTC

You can see the sun if you move forward more

2019-02-26 01:41:58 UTC

Well, it wouldn't make sense if it was inside, light only reflects like that when it's passing through a density barrier

2019-02-26 01:42:02 UTC

If you move back you lose its light

2019-02-26 01:42:20 UTC

But if there's nothing outside the firmament, what would the sun be moving in?

2019-02-26 01:42:29 UTC

But that does not happen

2019-02-26 01:42:31 UTC

Inside the firmament

2019-02-26 01:42:43 UTC

So the light goes and then just stops?

2019-02-26 01:42:45 UTC

These are guessing questions

2019-02-26 01:42:50 UTC

Only way to see the sun after it goes down is to go up

2019-02-26 01:43:02 UTC

Or forward

2019-02-26 01:43:03 UTC

Lol

2019-02-26 01:43:07 UTC

It can't be within the firmament, the light refraction you showed us only works when the light passes through a density barrier

2019-02-26 01:43:09 UTC

Or move really fast

2019-02-26 01:43:18 UTC

Like in a plane or something

2019-02-26 01:43:45 UTC

I can just step into the light and it appears

2019-02-26 01:43:48 UTC

Onto next question

2019-02-26 01:43:53 UTC

Lol

2019-02-26 01:43:58 UTC

You can't see infinite

2019-02-26 01:44:00 UTC

Op

2019-02-26 01:44:08 UTC

Ur not done with mine

2019-02-26 01:44:20 UTC

You had two questions

2019-02-26 01:44:25 UTC

U don't step into the light and it just appears

2019-02-26 01:44:26 UTC

And I'm not your monkey

2019-02-26 01:44:35 UTC

So I'll be going then

2019-02-26 01:45:14 UTC

Lol just back out when you can't answer it

2019-02-26 01:45:25 UTC

How come ur a atheist @tha cheeseburger?

2019-02-26 01:45:53 UTC

Y not makes more sense

2019-02-26 01:46:10 UTC

How'd the universe come into existence?

2019-02-26 01:46:20 UTC

Big bang theory

2019-02-26 01:46:31 UTC

Duh

2019-02-26 01:46:38 UTC

So it just happened

2019-02-26 01:47:10 UTC

Give me your measurements for a globe and your measurements for the distance and size of sun.

2019-02-26 01:47:15 UTC

Don't know what happened before it, but not knowing that does not mean god

2019-02-26 01:47:19 UTC

Then I'll answer you.

2019-02-26 01:47:37 UTC

Otherwise your are a troll

2019-02-26 01:47:44 UTC

Nothing more nothing less

2019-02-26 01:47:48 UTC

Ok so u don't know how the universe originally came into being @tha cheeseburger?

2019-02-26 01:47:57 UTC

Do u

2019-02-26 01:47:59 UTC

Then

2019-02-26 01:48:01 UTC

Yes

2019-02-26 01:48:05 UTC

What

2019-02-26 01:48:08 UTC

God created it

2019-02-26 01:48:16 UTC

What was before that

2019-02-26 01:48:23 UTC

Before god?

2019-02-26 01:48:34 UTC

Before the universe

2019-02-26 01:48:38 UTC

God

2019-02-26 01:48:44 UTC

Just god

2019-02-26 01:48:47 UTC

Yes

2019-02-26 01:48:54 UTC

For infinite time

2019-02-26 01:48:58 UTC

No time

2019-02-26 01:49:03 UTC

Fair

2019-02-26 01:49:04 UTC

There was no time

2019-02-26 01:49:11 UTC

Time was created

2019-02-26 01:49:21 UTC

Does not prove god tho

2019-02-26 01:49:37 UTC

But there's no way for the universe to be except him

2019-02-26 01:49:44 UTC

Or it

2019-02-26 01:50:59 UTC

@tha cheeseburger you think your little brain can understand God?

2019-02-26 01:51:05 UTC

The big crunch theory can give an answer not proven tho but it's pretty logical

2019-02-26 01:51:16 UTC

I think it's pretty solid

2019-02-26 01:51:25 UTC

Oh like it's goes in and out

2019-02-26 01:51:32 UTC

Again and again?

2019-02-26 01:51:34 UTC

Yea

2019-02-26 01:51:55 UTC

So the universe has been existing forever?

2019-02-26 01:52:15 UTC

Yea according to that theory

2019-02-26 01:52:40 UTC

So then everything that could happen has happened a infinite number of times?

2019-02-26 01:52:51 UTC

Well no

2019-02-26 01:52:57 UTC

Why not?

2019-02-26 01:53:46 UTC

Well it could be true but does it really matter

2019-02-26 01:54:05 UTC

Yes cuz that sounds illogical

2019-02-26 01:54:27 UTC

Sounds pretty logical

2019-02-26 01:54:53 UTC

Someone could have started counting at infinity at got down to 0?

2019-02-26 01:55:01 UTC

But we just don't know just how pretty good guesses, does not prove anything about God tho

2019-02-26 01:55:10 UTC

Not about

2019-02-26 01:55:17 UTC

Just that he exists

2019-02-26 01:55:32 UTC

No u can't start counting at infinity it's not a number

2019-02-26 01:55:53 UTC

It's the age of the universe according to you

2019-02-26 01:57:37 UTC

Also even if u prove a god exists by using flawed logic it does not prove that's it's ur god, it could be a flying pink elephant

2019-02-26 01:57:54 UTC

Well it's a all powerful god

2019-02-26 01:57:58 UTC

But yeah

2019-02-26 01:58:06 UTC

Ik it could not be my god

2019-02-26 01:58:24 UTC

Do we have free will?

2019-02-26 01:58:27 UTC

Both of you

2019-02-26 01:58:36 UTC

I'm not sure

2019-02-26 01:58:42 UTC

Y not does not matter

2019-02-26 01:59:04 UTC

True we should pretend we have it even if we might not

2019-02-26 01:59:08 UTC

It actually is important to the concept of God

2019-02-26 01:59:13 UTC

How so

2019-02-26 01:59:16 UTC

Not really

2019-02-26 01:59:36 UTC

Alright, alright

2019-02-26 01:59:45 UTC

Give me a second

2019-02-26 01:59:50 UTC

K

2019-02-26 02:00:02 UTC

First off, God is omniscient and omnipotent, "all powerful", correct?

2019-02-26 02:00:06 UTC

Yes

2019-02-26 02:00:19 UTC

Well

2019-02-26 02:00:19 UTC

Is God benevolent?

2019-02-26 02:00:23 UTC

Maybe

2019-02-26 02:00:48 UTC

Maybe?

2019-02-26 02:00:51 UTC

Interesting answer

2019-02-26 02:00:52 UTC

Idk

2019-02-26 02:00:55 UTC

Most people say yes

2019-02-26 02:00:56 UTC

Omnipotent is the other two

2019-02-26 02:00:59 UTC

Very forcefully

2019-02-26 02:01:01 UTC

Well I dont

2019-02-26 02:01:11 UTC

He could be a trickster

2019-02-26 02:01:16 UTC

Having fun

2019-02-26 02:01:18 UTC

No point saying all that just say he's omnipotent

2019-02-26 02:01:24 UTC

I can't understand him

2019-02-26 02:01:32 UTC

Or it

2019-02-26 02:01:34 UTC

Omnipotence and omniscience are two different things

2019-02-26 02:02:03 UTC

Whats omniscience again

2019-02-26 02:02:10 UTC

All-knowing

2019-02-26 02:02:23 UTC

Anyways we get the point

2019-02-26 02:02:30 UTC

About that

2019-02-26 02:02:32 UTC

Yea tha falls under omnipotent

2019-02-26 02:02:36 UTC

Keep going

2019-02-26 02:02:51 UTC

Lol

2019-02-26 02:02:55 UTC

Alright, @PatheticSteam has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.

2019-02-26 02:03:10 UTC

I think maybe on average but there's still smart black people

2019-02-26 02:03:45 UTC

How'd this happen we were having a good discussion

2019-02-26 02:04:06 UTC

@gohan what's ur point

2019-02-26 02:10:01 UTC

Thanks

2019-02-26 02:12:01 UTC

Np

2019-02-26 02:12:29 UTC

Thank you

2019-02-26 02:19:31 UTC

Anyone want to debate

2019-02-26 02:20:32 UTC

Depends. What about?

2019-02-26 02:21:03 UTC

Idk something we disagree on

2019-02-26 02:21:27 UTC

How very specific

2019-02-26 02:21:30 UTC
2019-02-26 02:21:30 UTC

<:vWarning:390208158699618306> The user @PatheticSteam is not in this server.

2019-02-26 02:21:57 UTC

What do you want to debate on

2019-02-26 02:22:55 UTC

Hmm

2019-02-26 02:23:01 UTC

We agree on the shape of the Earth

2019-02-26 02:23:17 UTC

~~Abortion~~

2019-02-26 02:23:38 UTC

I'm not getting back into that

2019-02-26 02:23:47 UTC

Don't like that debate

2019-02-26 02:24:00 UTC

It's too touchy

2019-02-26 02:24:07 UTC

Gets to heated

2019-02-26 02:24:27 UTC

Too many emotions

2019-02-26 02:24:39 UTC

Yea

2019-02-26 02:24:54 UTC

I would say vegetarianism, but it isn't much of a debate

2019-02-26 02:25:22 UTC

Not really but meat is delicious

2019-02-26 02:25:29 UTC

I agree, but I switched away

2019-02-26 02:26:24 UTC

Fair like but I don't see any problems with it

2019-02-26 02:26:32 UTC

Good debate

2019-02-26 02:26:38 UTC

I enjoyed it

2019-02-26 02:26:40 UTC

๐Ÿ˜‚

2019-02-26 02:26:41 UTC

Yea

2019-02-26 02:26:47 UTC

Hm

2019-02-26 02:26:53 UTC

Any conspiracies you believe in?

2019-02-26 02:27:06 UTC

Can't think of any

2019-02-26 02:27:11 UTC

Anything about 5G maybe?

2019-02-26 02:27:15 UTC

I know that's a new thing

2019-02-26 02:27:31 UTC

What that

2019-02-26 02:27:38 UTC

5G internet?

2019-02-26 02:27:48 UTC

5G cellular networks, specifically

2019-02-26 02:28:06 UTC

K what's the conspiracy about it

2019-02-26 02:28:10 UTC

Idk

2019-02-26 02:28:23 UTC

Something about it being dangerous

2019-02-26 02:28:28 UTC

Lol

2019-02-26 02:28:55 UTC

U believe in any conspiracies

2019-02-26 02:29:07 UTC

Just one

2019-02-26 02:29:12 UTC

Predictive Policing

2019-02-26 02:29:32 UTC

What that about, don't usually debate these things

2019-02-26 02:29:42 UTC

The idea that police use algorithms to predict potential threats

2019-02-26 02:30:08 UTC

Can you debate over that

2019-02-26 02:30:16 UTC

Chicago actually has an algorithm like that in place, hooked up to a city-wide camera system

2019-02-26 02:30:34 UTC

It doesn't work very well, but they've got one

2019-02-26 02:30:39 UTC

K

2019-02-26 02:30:48 UTC

The Ubisoft game Watchdogs was based off of that idea

2019-02-26 02:30:55 UTC

Blacksite prisons there

2019-02-26 02:30:59 UTC

Centralized surveillance and predictive policing

2019-02-26 02:31:01 UTC

No lawyers

2019-02-26 02:31:21 UTC

?

2019-02-26 02:32:21 UTC

Chicago is a terrible

2019-02-26 02:32:52 UTC

Like a training and testing ground for the police state

2019-02-26 02:34:02 UTC

I believe places like North Korea were testing countries for the police state

2019-02-26 02:37:14 UTC

Every state is terrible

2019-02-26 02:37:57 UTC

When it comes to criminals

2019-02-26 02:38:05 UTC

And prison

2019-02-26 02:41:16 UTC

There has already been a link between 5G and cancer/other effects on the body. It could be just fear porn, but I think it's a real threat.

2019-02-26 02:42:19 UTC

If it's been proven then it's will be banned or something

2019-02-26 02:42:45 UTC

Not much of a threat

2019-02-26 02:43:33 UTC

LMAO

2019-02-26 02:43:46 UTC

There are plenty of things that harm us that aren't banned.

2019-02-26 02:43:58 UTC

Such as

2019-02-26 02:44:02 UTC

GMO's

2019-02-26 02:44:07 UTC

Vaccines

2019-02-26 02:44:11 UTC

Lol

2019-02-26 02:44:12 UTC

Cigarretes

2019-02-26 02:44:24 UTC

That's a good point, that last one

2019-02-26 02:44:25 UTC

plenty of prescription drugs

2019-02-26 02:44:26 UTC

Vaccines

2019-02-26 02:44:31 UTC

Lol

2019-02-26 02:44:36 UTC

Also the only good one, but it's okay

2019-02-26 02:44:57 UTC

5G has not been conclusively linked to cancer, and it most likely never will be.

2019-02-26 02:45:15 UTC

Gmos is just taking the best and replanting that pretty much

2019-02-26 02:45:20 UTC

The cigarettes are a good point tho

2019-02-26 02:45:25 UTC

Yeah they arw

2019-02-26 02:45:27 UTC

Arw

2019-02-26 02:45:29 UTC

Are

2019-02-26 02:45:31 UTC

Lol

2019-02-26 02:45:43 UTC

That's because 5G uses electromagnetic wavelengths that aren't high-intensity like gamma rays and x-rays

2019-02-26 02:46:06 UTC

Ionizing radiation (the kind that causes cancer) only appears at wavelengths with the intensity of UV light and above

2019-02-26 02:46:24 UTC

Yea low intensity radiation is harmless

2019-02-26 02:46:56 UTC

Back on to them vaccines

2019-02-26 02:47:25 UTC

Which is a big point right now cus it's killing children

2019-02-26 02:47:45 UTC

Probably the most harmful conspiracy

2019-02-26 02:48:34 UTC

Btw I'm saying not giving kids vaccines is killing them

2019-02-26 02:48:59 UTC

The way ionizing radiation causes cancer is by ionizing, or knocking the electrons off of, molecules in your DNA

2019-02-26 02:49:26 UTC

That damage cause replication errors, which can lead to rapid uncontrolled growth, aka cancer

2019-02-26 02:49:40 UTC

I see

2019-02-26 02:50:08 UTC

5G uses milimeter waves, which are far too large to energize electrons to the point where they are knocked off of the molecules

2019-02-26 02:50:27 UTC

The wavelength is in the realm of millimeters, far larger than a molecule

2019-02-26 02:50:42 UTC

^

2019-02-26 02:52:44 UTC

What happened to @Loony Naughty , u can't just say vaccines are harmful and then leave

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