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2019-04-06 21:25:18 UTC

Please go ahead read this ^^^^

2019-04-06 21:25:26 UTC

Now tell me what a model is please

2019-04-06 21:25:30 UTC

So, I ahve a question, I think I believe the earth is flat, but what about like other planets? What about mars?

2019-04-06 21:25:49 UTC

I see literally no relationship between a model for atoms and a model for a planet

2019-04-06 21:25:51 UTC

Im not very educated on the subject and looking for a quide

2019-04-06 21:26:04 UTC

Just the definition of the word "MODEL" please

2019-04-06 21:26:07 UTC

I believe that the government fakes the existence of those planets. That we are in a sort of simulation that is run by the gov't

2019-04-06 21:26:27 UTC

Sure
And I can pick any definition?

2019-04-06 21:27:05 UTC

Tell me the only definition of a model

2019-04-06 21:27:09 UTC

I'll assume you're all incapable of reading

2019-04-06 21:27:17 UTC

I know I am

2019-04-06 21:27:18 UTC

1 obsolete : a set of plans for a building

2019-04-06 21:27:18 UTC

Taxes are a lie, existence is futile

2019-04-06 21:27:24 UTC

2 dialectal British : copy, image

2019-04-06 21:27:24 UTC

Because that site lists a lot more than 1

2019-04-06 21:27:29 UTC

I said

2019-04-06 21:27:30 UTC

3 : structural design a home on the model of an old farmhouse

2019-04-06 21:27:32 UTC

I don't believe in Earth

2019-04-06 21:27:33 UTC

The only definition

2019-04-06 21:27:35 UTC

4 : a usually miniature representation of something a plastic model of the human heart also : a pattern of something to be made

2019-04-06 21:27:39 UTC

And you've already given 4

2019-04-06 21:27:42 UTC

5 : an example for imitation or emulation his written addresses are models of clearness, logical order, and styleโ€” A. B. Noble

2019-04-06 21:27:45 UTC

I said __only__

2019-04-06 21:27:47 UTC

6 : a person or thing that serves as a pattern for an artist especially : one who poses for an artist His wife served as the model for many of his paintings.

2019-04-06 21:27:51 UTC

7 : archetype

2019-04-06 21:27:57 UTC

8 : an organism whose appearance a mimic imitates

2019-04-06 21:27:58 UTC

How can the Earth be flat if it isn't real

2019-04-06 21:28:23 UTC

"a description or analogy used to help visualize something (such as an atom) that cannot be directly observed" is the definition we need in this context

2019-04-06 21:28:28 UTC

But you just got me to return

2019-04-06 21:28:35 UTC

The definition

2019-04-06 21:28:38 UTC

Not definitions

2019-04-06 21:28:56 UTC

I could of responded saying "an organism whose appearance a mimic imitates"

2019-04-06 21:29:21 UTC

9 : one who is employed to display clothes or other merchandise has appeared as a model in ads for swimsuits

2019-04-06 21:29:32 UTC

10 : a type or design of clothing girls, self-conscious in their Paris modelsโ€” Paul Bowles

2019-04-06 21:29:44 UTC

10: b : a type or design of product (such as a car) offers eight new models for next year, including a completely restyled convertible

2019-04-06 21:29:49 UTC

11 : a description or analogy used to help visualize something (such as an atom) that cannot be directly observed

2019-04-06 21:29:56 UTC

12 : a system of postulates, data, and inferences presented as a mathematical description of an entity or state of affairs also : a computer simulation (see simulation sense 3a) based on such a system climate models

2019-04-06 21:29:59 UTC

so

2019-04-06 21:30:03 UTC

Oh, don't worry

2019-04-06 21:30:05 UTC

There's a lot more

2019-04-06 21:30:10 UTC

do you not believe in Bohr-Rutherford diagrams?

2019-04-06 21:30:19 UTC

You haven't even got to the use of model as a verb yet

2019-04-06 21:30:21 UTC

I odnt understand

2019-04-06 21:30:26 UTC

So let's have a look at a system of postulates shall we?

2019-04-06 21:30:31 UTC

Bohr-rutherford diagrams are a lie created by Cthulu himself.

2019-04-06 21:30:38 UTC

No

2019-04-06 21:30:42 UTC

yes

2019-04-06 21:30:43 UTC

yes

2019-04-06 21:30:44 UTC

The definition we use in this context

2019-04-06 21:30:48 UTC

is "a description or analogy used to help visualize something (such as an atom) that cannot be directly observed"

2019-04-06 21:30:48 UTC

wrong

2019-04-06 21:30:49 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/538929818834698260/564200366711767080/DeepinScreenshot_select-area_20190407003043.png

2019-04-06 21:30:50 UTC

incorrect

2019-04-06 21:30:52 UTC

idiot

2019-04-06 21:30:54 UTC

your stupd

2019-04-06 21:30:58 UTC

We are not using that definition

2019-04-06 21:31:00 UTC

Your atoms and your globes are systems of assumption

2019-04-06 21:31:01 UTC

SOmeone here has autism

2019-04-06 21:31:02 UTC

yes we are

2019-04-06 21:31:05 UTC

get with the program

2019-04-06 21:31:11 UTC

"a description or analogy used to help visualize something (such as an atom) that cannot be directly observed"

2019-04-06 21:31:15 UTC

what about the definition

2019-04-06 21:31:18 UTC

that literally mentions

2019-04-06 21:31:21 UTC

the word atom

2019-04-06 21:31:30 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/538929818834698260/564200539319959570/DeepinScreenshot_select-area_20190407003123.png

2019-04-06 21:31:41 UTC

to pretend or have or be

2019-04-06 21:31:44 UTC

FEIGN

2019-04-06 21:31:46 UTC

It's just a way of visualising and understanding something that we cannot directly observe

2019-04-06 21:31:56 UTC

No model is needed if it can be easily observed

2019-04-06 21:32:11 UTC

So you are pushing a system of assumptions or pretences as if they were real

2019-04-06 21:32:15 UTC

they're not

2019-04-06 21:32:18 UTC

Well... just because we can observe it doesn't mean that we don't need a model to understand it

2019-04-06 21:32:22 UTC

you can't scientifically prove them

2019-04-06 21:32:28 UTC

so you construct a system of assumptions

2019-04-06 21:32:33 UTC

and build on the system of assumptions

2019-04-06 21:32:40 UTC

"mathematical description of an entity or state of affairs"
this
is
not
A mathematical model
This is a visual representation
Not a mathematical equation

2019-04-06 21:32:52 UTC

How is this so hard to understand

2019-04-06 21:34:44 UTC

You just went in, and cherry picked a definition that isn't even relevant and went out of your way to use it to claim that all models are lies

2019-04-06 21:35:48 UTC

@Hamburger Guy I'm not defending a n y model

2019-04-06 21:36:38 UTC

I'm just saying
You can't measure the mass as just atoms

2019-04-06 21:36:55 UTC

I haven't been bringing up orbits at all

2019-04-06 21:37:01 UTC

May I see a photograph of your electrons please

2019-04-06 21:37:12 UTC

Just simply saying
Neutron and protons likely do exist

2019-04-06 21:37:24 UTC

Are you suggesting that electrons don't exist?

2019-04-06 21:37:31 UTC

Syntax

2019-04-06 21:37:41 UTC

do you believe in the earth being round?

2019-04-06 21:37:42 UTC

@Syntax I can see you're really mad as hell right now, you're angry that you're trapped inside a model, a pyramid of assumptions, assumptions you can't prove.

2019-04-06 21:37:48 UTC

.

2019-04-06 21:37:50 UTC

he is actually

2019-04-06 21:37:51 UTC

And you're trying to defend your assumptions with more assumptions

2019-04-06 21:37:52 UTC

Sure I do believe the Earth is round

2019-04-06 21:37:53 UTC

much calmer than you

2019-04-06 21:37:56 UTC

And I'm not mad

2019-04-06 21:38:06 UTC

I'm just wanting for my boyfriend to get online

2019-04-06 21:38:06 UTC

It's not what you know, it's what you can prove

2019-04-06 21:38:19 UTC

now I can prove acceleration occurs with all 10 of my laws

2019-04-06 21:38:42 UTC

You can't prove a massless wave produces a force, but you can prove a massless wave produces accleration

2019-04-06 21:39:05 UTC

Okay give me proof of all 10, and then proof of all of those and also explain why these quantities are not just assumed to be real

2019-04-06 21:39:09 UTC

Scientists using The Scientific Method have PROVEN

1 Water boils at 212ยฐF 100ยฐC at sea level one atmosphere of pressure: 101.325 kPa or 14.7 psi.
2 Combustion is the result of Oxidation Reactions.
3 Information is ONLY caused by Intelligent Agency.
4 Lack of Insulin with Type 1 DM Patients results in Ketoacidosis DKA.
5 Lack of Vit C intake in humans results in Scurvy.
6 Knowledge or the Existence of the Which-Path Information Collapses The Wave Function.
7 The rapid motion and collisions of molecules with the walls of the container CAUSES Gas Pressure.
8 Magnetism is caused by the motion of Electric Charge.
9 The Coriolis Force is caused by two differing Frames of Reference One Rotating Coordinate System Non-Inertial and One Non-Rotating Coordinate System Inertial.
10. Gluconeogenesis results in the production of Glucose from specific Non-Carbohydrate Precursors.

2019-04-06 21:39:52 UTC

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