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2019-04-06 08:46:12 UTC

No some people are serious lol

wagwan

2019-04-06 11:41:50 UTC

Just wanted to say I never meant to seem like I was making fun of Christianity or anything I'm serious about it increasingly feel satanic conspiracy behind society problems

2019-04-06 11:42:03 UTC

Because of celinnunu, Billie Eillish etc

2019-04-06 12:50:17 UTC

Back to the subject of flat earth

2019-04-06 12:51:13 UTC

Werner von Braun the head of nasa and founder of nasa put this on his tomb stone "the heavens display the glory of God and the firmament showeth his handiwork"

2019-04-06 12:51:18 UTC

From the Bible

2019-04-06 12:51:27 UTC

The firmament is the dome over flat earth

2019-04-06 12:51:40 UTC

In that model

2019-04-06 13:17:12 UTC

Some say rockets can never get to space

2019-04-06 13:17:22 UTC

They just arc and go Into the ocean

2019-04-06 14:06:05 UTC

How can the earth be flat when you can observe the sunset and sunrise ?

2019-04-06 14:47:01 UTC

Globers lack basic scientific knowledge

2019-04-06 15:19:46 UTC

Woah, care to be specific?

2019-04-06 15:30:53 UTC

Supposedly something called conservation of momentum explains it

2019-04-06 15:31:45 UTC

Guys I was just on a #collapse discord and now I think humanity will be extinct in less than 20 years. We are always deep into total collapse. I think we will start seeing it in real time this year

2019-04-06 15:32:03 UTC

If you pay any attention the elites and scientists already know we are doomed and have for a long time

2019-04-06 15:32:28 UTC

So flat earth or round earth we need to prepare and save the world

2019-04-06 15:33:41 UTC

jake, you're a the lad

2019-04-06 15:33:42 UTC

Yep, the world will end any 100 years now.

2019-04-06 15:33:52 UTC

in 20 years

2019-04-06 15:33:58 UTC

Why?

2019-04-06 15:34:12 UTC

I thought 2028 was the year to talk about.

2019-04-06 15:35:01 UTC

@Green Knight Do you even think conservation of momentum is real?

2019-04-06 15:36:22 UTC

I don't know because I don't know physics or math and science. Hard to understand how fuel based rocket can work in vacuum but I don't understand how lots of things work

2019-04-06 15:36:36 UTC

Some say rockets never get to space because of the firmament /hard barrier

2019-04-06 15:36:52 UTC

But the SpaceX rocket could be seen reentering atmosphere

2019-04-06 15:37:01 UTC

It's basically like throwing a bowling ball. You're not pushing off the air, you're pushing off the ball and nothing else.

2019-04-06 15:40:44 UTC

If rocket thrusters push off of air, it begs the question: What does the air push off of? You only need two components to get thrust, in this case the rocket and the gas from the thrusters. However, if the gas itself needs to push off of something else, then that something must do the same, and so on and so on. Infinite regression.

2019-04-06 15:47:32 UTC

Interesting

2019-04-06 15:47:43 UTC

So you think space travel is fundamentally impossible?

2019-04-06 15:47:55 UTC

Some speculate outer space isn't truly a vacuum

2019-04-06 15:48:06 UTC

Craziest theory I've heard is space is liquid / water

2019-04-06 15:48:11 UTC

Some evidence for it even

2019-04-06 15:50:46 UTC

"Genesis 1:6-8
And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.ย 
And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.ย 
And God called the firmament Heaven."

2019-04-06 15:50:46 UTC

**Genesis 1:6-8 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

```Dust


<6> And God said, "Let there be a dome in the midst of the waters, and let it separate the waters from the waters." <7> So God made the dome and separated the waters that were under the dome from the waters that were above the dome. And it was so. <8> God called the dome Sky. And there was evening and there was morning, the second day. ```

2019-04-06 16:00:39 UTC

So Bible says above heaven /sky /dome is water

2019-04-06 16:01:03 UTC

Also in the international space station footage you can see bubbles rising from astronauts showing they are under water

2019-04-06 16:01:19 UTC

Search international space station bubbles on YouTube

2019-04-06 17:46:29 UTC

Theyโ€™re not bubbles. Theyโ€™re small solid particles, most likely bits of water ice.

As the astronauts exit the ISS through the airlock, the air in it is vented to space. As the air expands, it cools (look up โ€œadiabatic expansionโ€). The water vapor in the air freezes into small ice crystals. These crystals then slowly sublimate, i.e., they turn directly into water vapor, so they do not contribute to the space debris problem.

Hereโ€™s an example of humidity freezing into ice crystals as air is vented to (near) vacuum. It occurred during Felix Baumgartnerโ€™s jump from the stratosphere. As he opens the hatch, notice the cloud of ice crystals going out the top of the door. Even though the cabin was already vented nearly to ambient pressure, enough air remained inside for the water vapor in it to freeze instantly into enough ice crystals for the camera to see.

2019-04-06 17:46:53 UTC
2019-04-06 17:47:43 UTC

OK but why do the apparent bubbles go straight up like air bubbles rising in water?

2019-04-06 17:47:52 UTC

If frozen ice or whatever would not go straight up

2019-04-06 17:48:26 UTC

There is no gravity in space did you know!

2019-04-06 17:48:42 UTC

Right so they should just float or go in whatever direction there momentum is

2019-04-06 17:48:47 UTC

Not straight up like air bubbles

2019-04-06 17:49:01 UTC

Basically yes

2019-04-06 17:49:15 UTC

So either they are faking it in the huge simulation pool

2019-04-06 17:49:19 UTC

Or space is water

2019-04-06 17:49:36 UTC

Or GRAVITY IS OBSOLETE IN SPACE

2019-04-06 17:49:50 UTC

Also have you heard about that astronaut on the ISS who almost drowned?

2019-04-06 17:49:55 UTC

And now they all have snorkels

2019-04-06 17:50:04 UTC

Hmm give me a link can you?

2019-04-06 17:50:09 UTC

There is still a little bit of gravity at the iss but it is very little so stuff should still move towards earth

2019-04-06 17:50:34 UTC

Yeah again no gravity in space would not make stuff go straight up as if rising in water

2019-04-06 17:50:48 UTC

That would be reverse gravity not no gravity

2019-04-06 17:50:53 UTC

There is no up and down in space

2019-04-06 17:50:55 UTC

In no gravity it would just float in place

2019-04-06 17:51:01 UTC

Exactly

2019-04-06 17:51:19 UTC

That's why the bubbles going fast up is not consistent with zero g space

2019-04-06 17:51:26 UTC

But consider with underwater

2019-04-06 17:51:33 UTC

Yes pizza I'll find you a link

2019-04-06 17:51:40 UTC

It's an absurd story

2019-04-06 17:51:57 UTC

Depends where the person stands and speed of the object

2019-04-06 17:52:11 UTC

Might be a leak in his drinking bag?

2019-04-06 17:52:29 UTC

When he almost drowned?

2019-04-06 17:53:35 UTC

Heard that could happen

2019-04-06 17:54:13 UTC

Drowning is possible in space for many reasons

2019-04-06 17:54:14 UTC

The other thing is he was supposed to be in space and his family got a call saying hurry he is in the hospital almost drowned

2019-04-06 17:54:32 UTC

And the family was like wtf he's supposed to be on the ISS

2019-04-06 17:54:38 UTC

So how did he get to the hospital

2019-04-06 17:55:29 UTC

Link? NASA Has underwater testing facilities in Houston Which they send astronauts to swim with the water and do tests or whatever @Green Knight

2019-04-06 17:56:03 UTC

its called the Neutral Buoyancy Laboratory

2019-04-06 17:58:22 UTC

Yes many people suspect the ISS is faked in that laboratory

2019-04-06 17:58:37 UTC

Can't find the story version I read before

2019-04-06 17:59:23 UTC

"harrowing spacewalk on July 16, 2013, in which water flooded the spacesuit helmet of Italian astronaut Luca Parmitano"

2019-04-06 18:01:29 UTC

If you read all of it it says it was a water leak was a clogged filter

2019-04-06 18:01:36 UTC

That was because there was water in the suit and it happened to caused water to leak

2019-04-06 18:01:52 UTC

Yea a water leak from a filter

2019-04-06 18:01:57 UTC

Yep

2019-04-06 18:04:31 UTC

@Green Knight Have you given up finally?

2019-04-06 18:05:56 UTC

Yeah I know they say the leak was from within his suit

2019-04-06 18:05:59 UTC

And I'm sure it was

2019-04-06 18:06:08 UTC

I'm not necessarily sold on space as water

2019-04-06 18:07:04 UTC

I just find an interesting chain of evidence. 1. The Bible says above the sky is water 2. New science says space could be liquid 3. ISS videos appear to show air bubbles rising as if underwater 4. Astronaut almost drowns in space

2019-04-06 18:07:14 UTC

But I know it's a big stretch

2019-04-06 18:07:37 UTC

There are quite a few YouTube videos on the subject of space as water but I don't want to post them until I can watch

2019-04-06 18:08:18 UTC

Bye i going to watch some youtube

2019-04-06 18:08:25 UTC

Enjoy friend

2019-04-06 18:10:51 UTC

Two YouTube videos about space as water

2019-04-06 19:28:09 UTC

I build and design rockets

2019-04-06 20:08:41 UTC
2019-04-06 20:08:44 UTC

Hey

2019-04-06 20:08:50 UTC

Let's start with 1

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