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No some people are serious lol
wagwan
Just wanted to say I never meant to seem like I was making fun of Christianity or anything I'm serious about it increasingly feel satanic conspiracy behind society problems
Because of celinnunu, Billie Eillish etc
Back to the subject of flat earth
Werner von Braun the head of nasa and founder of nasa put this on his tomb stone "the heavens display the glory of God and the firmament showeth his handiwork"
From the Bible
The firmament is the dome over flat earth
In that model
Some say rockets can never get to space
They just arc and go Into the ocean
How can the earth be flat when you can observe the sunset and sunrise ?
Globers lack basic scientific knowledge
Woah, care to be specific?
Supposedly something called conservation of momentum explains it
Guys I was just on a #collapse discord and now I think humanity will be extinct in less than 20 years. We are always deep into total collapse. I think we will start seeing it in real time this year
If you pay any attention the elites and scientists already know we are doomed and have for a long time
So flat earth or round earth we need to prepare and save the world
jake, you're a the lad
Yep, the world will end any 100 years now.
in 20 years
Why?
I thought 2028 was the year to talk about.
@Green Knight Do you even think conservation of momentum is real?
I don't know because I don't know physics or math and science. Hard to understand how fuel based rocket can work in vacuum but I don't understand how lots of things work
Some say rockets never get to space because of the firmament /hard barrier
But the SpaceX rocket could be seen reentering atmosphere
It's basically like throwing a bowling ball. You're not pushing off the air, you're pushing off the ball and nothing else.
If rocket thrusters push off of air, it begs the question: What does the air push off of? You only need two components to get thrust, in this case the rocket and the gas from the thrusters. However, if the gas itself needs to push off of something else, then that something must do the same, and so on and so on. Infinite regression.
Interesting
So you think space travel is fundamentally impossible?
Some speculate outer space isn't truly a vacuum
Craziest theory I've heard is space is liquid / water
Some evidence for it even
"Genesis 1:6-8
And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.ย
And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.ย
And God called the firmament Heaven."
**Genesis 1:6-8 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**
```Dust
<6> And God said, "Let there be a dome in the midst of the waters, and let it separate the waters from the waters." <7> So God made the dome and separated the waters that were under the dome from the waters that were above the dome. And it was so. <8> God called the dome Sky. And there was evening and there was morning, the second day. ```
So Bible says above heaven /sky /dome is water
Also in the international space station footage you can see bubbles rising from astronauts showing they are under water
Search international space station bubbles on YouTube
Theyโre not bubbles. Theyโre small solid particles, most likely bits of water ice.
As the astronauts exit the ISS through the airlock, the air in it is vented to space. As the air expands, it cools (look up โadiabatic expansionโ). The water vapor in the air freezes into small ice crystals. These crystals then slowly sublimate, i.e., they turn directly into water vapor, so they do not contribute to the space debris problem.
Hereโs an example of humidity freezing into ice crystals as air is vented to (near) vacuum. It occurred during Felix Baumgartnerโs jump from the stratosphere. As he opens the hatch, notice the cloud of ice crystals going out the top of the door. Even though the cabin was already vented nearly to ambient pressure, enough air remained inside for the water vapor in it to freeze instantly into enough ice crystals for the camera to see.
OK but why do the apparent bubbles go straight up like air bubbles rising in water?
If frozen ice or whatever would not go straight up
There is no gravity in space did you know!
Right so they should just float or go in whatever direction there momentum is
Not straight up like air bubbles
Basically yes
So either they are faking it in the huge simulation pool
Or space is water
Or GRAVITY IS OBSOLETE IN SPACE
Also have you heard about that astronaut on the ISS who almost drowned?
And now they all have snorkels
Hmm give me a link can you?
There is still a little bit of gravity at the iss but it is very little so stuff should still move towards earth
Yeah again no gravity in space would not make stuff go straight up as if rising in water
That would be reverse gravity not no gravity
There is no up and down in space
In no gravity it would just float in place
Exactly
That's why the bubbles going fast up is not consistent with zero g space
But consider with underwater
Yes pizza I'll find you a link
It's an absurd story
Depends where the person stands and speed of the object
Might be a leak in his drinking bag?
When he almost drowned?
Heard that could happen
Drowning is possible in space for many reasons
The other thing is he was supposed to be in space and his family got a call saying hurry he is in the hospital almost drowned
And the family was like wtf he's supposed to be on the ISS
So how did he get to the hospital
Link? NASA Has underwater testing facilities in Houston Which they send astronauts to swim with the water and do tests or whatever @Green Knight
its called the Neutral Buoyancy Laboratory
Yes many people suspect the ISS is faked in that laboratory
Can't find the story version I read before
"harrowing spacewalk on July 16, 2013, in which water flooded the spacesuit helmet of Italian astronaut Luca Parmitano"
If you read all of it it says it was a water leak was a clogged filter
That was because there was water in the suit and it happened to caused water to leak
Yea a water leak from a filter
Yep
@Green Knight Have you given up finally?
Yeah I know they say the leak was from within his suit
And I'm sure it was
I'm not necessarily sold on space as water
I just find an interesting chain of evidence. 1. The Bible says above the sky is water 2. New science says space could be liquid 3. ISS videos appear to show air bubbles rising as if underwater 4. Astronaut almost drowns in space
But I know it's a big stretch
There are quite a few YouTube videos on the subject of space as water but I don't want to post them until I can watch
Bye i going to watch some youtube
Enjoy friend
Two YouTube videos about space as water
I build and design rockets
Hey
Let's start with 1
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