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this just means there is no aether

and those quotes Citizen listed also in a nutshell just state that you cant tell whether you are moving relative to something or that something rotating relative to you through simple optical experiments because you are apart of the relative system

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i know, not really what they seem to be when the majority of the quote is removed

with no context given

Michelson morley proved we are not moving

no, they proved we arent moving *through an Aether*

i feel like a party pooper

They proved we are not orbiting the sun

It had to do with the speed of light

lemon dont feel bad you are saying what is actually meant

That's why einstein came up with gr

To try and explain the fact we cant detect movement

They either had to discard the ether or admit we weren't orbiting the sun. They didnt know what to do

It was a conundrum

Citizen, it did have to do with the speed of light, it would move faster going with the aether and slower against it causing a difference like what was expected, but we couldnt find any difference disproving we are moving through an aether

The quotes are not taken out of context

they are in a way

You need to look again

i watched it, twice

It doesn't seem like it

oh well

They clearly said the experiment disproved earth orbiting the sun

what proof do globe earthers have for the movement of the earth?

none

really? what time in the video did it say that, because this particular experiment cant really do that, though i do agree we arent

Rewatch it. It says they couldn't detect the earth moving around the sun

if you can give me a time that would help a bit

No experiment could

That's why einsteins gr was adopted

grrrrr

i dont have the time to go through the whole thing

If you could detect movement. Then GR would be debunked.

as i've said time and time again, a lot of science is made up to account for the flaws of the globe earth model

listen, all im saying is the Michelson Morley experiment cant prove/disprove we are moving around the sun, or that we are moving at all, but it disproved that we are moving through an Aether

though i do agree with you citizen and several that we do not orbit the sun

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Einstein admits multiple times we cant detect movement

@Lemonier yes we are not moving through an aether. That doesn't mean an aether doesnt exist. It means we aren't moving through it. I think lol.

would you agree that this isnt the only experiment that has a result saying an Aether isn't present?

Its saying we aren't detecting movement

They had to theorize why. In order to hold onto heliocentric spinning earth

confirmation bias

oh that just means "Since everything is relative, you can say 'You are running and moving while I am standing and not moving' and another person can say 'No, I am running and still and you are standing and moving!', to them, they both arent wrong." He is just saying that with greater depth in that quote

globe earthers have to dig so much to find anything that proves their model

to the point of making up stuff

You should watch more on what you are talking about

Airys failure actually detected the aether

thats my answer from this

The misrepresent the experiment

jesus christ, you dont know what you're talking about @Lemonier

I do, and I have a lot of other people, both FE and GE, who can agree with me on this

https://youtu.be/y7gt7-bEyAU

thanks for the quick access

Mainstream science misrepresents

They fool ppl

That's why they dont teach this experiment

mainstream science is made up nonsense that are made off twisted versions of the truth made to fit the mainstream view of the shape of the earth

mainstream science cannot be trusted, which is why us flat earthers rely on actual science

The video explains why they did detect an aether.

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ill look into it later, got some studies to tend to, good talk

gg

its not a gg, its a "thanks for having this discussion with me"

its easier to type

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-crying-tears-sad-frog-gif-11760244

gg usually means you won, as in you won an argument, sorry just wanted to clarify

np

i just use it as a quick way of saying "thanks for having this discussion with me"

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@Citizen Z of course they would twist facts, you dont have to tell us, we already know 😉

Its been a few years since I looked at airys success experiment

wait i just realized, this slide

and the Michelson Morley both contradict each-other, because the Michelson Morley showed that there *wasnt* an aether interfering with light as that slide is saying it did

alright i really gotta work now

k

bye

No.

MM showed we weren't MOVING

Airys showed the ether is drifting past. Not earth moving

They dont contradict eachother

the aether moving past and the earth moving through the aether have the same effect on light

We are not moving through an aether..the aether is drifting past us.

its the result thats the problem, not the cause

No. If we were moving...when you shoot to light waves it should detect us moving

special relativity.

MM was two beams

Airys was a single collection point

I'll try to find a video about what I'm sayin later

again, the cause doesnt matter, be it earth moving, or the aether moving, it still has the same result which was disproven in the MM experiment

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