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2018-11-17 05:11:49 UTC

@The Gwench don't tell me what to do or say, please, keep it to yourself

2018-11-17 05:17:54 UTC

@Samwise Thatโ€™s exactly what I just said...keep it to yourself.

2018-11-17 05:32:03 UTC

The moon last night, I took it the picture with my potato phone camera

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484514023698726912/513224784083943434/IMG_20181116_202313.jpg

2018-11-17 06:53:19 UTC

Quick question about the moon...in the globe model, the sun shines on the moon causing it to reflect light, that's why we see it shining...in the fe model, according to z, the sun and moon are small and local to the earth, meaning that the sun and moon orbit the earth, so what causes the moon to shine if both objects are orbiting together...

2018-11-17 06:56:55 UTC

Apparently the moon shines itself @Samwise

2018-11-17 07:07:04 UTC

Oh

2018-11-17 07:07:16 UTC

But it's much duller than the sun

2018-11-17 07:07:28 UTC

A mini dwarf star then?

2018-11-17 08:14:49 UTC

Ok sure

2018-11-17 08:21:36 UTC

Overgeneralisation
Leads to the Halo affect
Selective observation
Ego involvement

2018-11-17 08:21:57 UTC

Hey

2018-11-17 08:22:02 UTC

Nat

2018-11-17 08:22:08 UTC

Wassup

2018-11-17 08:22:15 UTC

Not much

2018-11-17 08:22:21 UTC

It's your friendly neighborhood coward

2018-11-17 08:22:26 UTC

Oof

2018-11-17 08:22:42 UTC

Is that Deadpool Pikachu?

2018-11-17 08:24:41 UTC

I have returned

2018-11-17 08:24:46 UTC

Z was right

2018-11-17 08:25:22 UTC

Pika pool if you please

2018-11-17 08:25:38 UTC

Z... was... right?

2018-11-17 08:26:45 UTC

Once all the FE were kicked FEO started dying, Gazor put in a bot that advertises the server so we get people coming in but no FE who are willing to knock them down

2018-11-17 08:27:16 UTC

Far fewer bans nowadays though... Probably because no one argues

2018-11-17 08:27:21 UTC

We need FE

2018-11-17 08:29:09 UTC

Yeah true

2018-11-17 08:29:23 UTC

But this isn't a debate server anymore

2018-11-17 08:29:58 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484514023698726912/513269555846578180/Screenshot_2018-11-16-06-50-29.png

2018-11-17 08:30:35 UTC

Yeah I just checked out the rules

2018-11-17 08:31:57 UTC

Tag yourself I'm Amazon troll, because I immediately started talking bad about FEO...

2018-11-17 08:32:49 UTC

We're not

2018-11-17 08:33:30 UTC

The simple thing is, the mod abuse was keeping it alive
But this is Z's server so we should respect his regime

2018-11-17 08:33:51 UTC

Yeah I don't want to start trouble

2018-11-17 08:33:57 UTC

Me too

2018-11-17 08:33:58 UTC

Just showing that I read the new rules

2018-11-17 08:34:19 UTC

I read them up, down, left right and centre

2018-11-17 08:35:47 UTC

Is Kevin here anymore? I've always just seen him and this server as a unit

2018-11-17 08:36:22 UTC

Yes

2018-11-17 12:14:51 UTC

@I-VaPE-ChEMtrAiLS It is great to see you back.

2018-11-17 12:29:25 UTC

@Samwise Your pic of the moon is great. ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

Speaking of the moon, I would like you to look into the Selenilion Eclipse of the moon.

I would like your serious thought into how this is even possible. I will provide you with a video.

https://youtu.be/qOExlVNN2yY

2018-11-17 12:51:53 UTC

Atmospheric refraction

2018-11-17 12:52:10 UTC

A process where objects in the sky look higher in the sky than they are

2018-11-17 12:52:38 UTC

Also the moon and sun are roughly opposite each other at that specific point, so that's why it's possible

2018-11-17 12:55:19 UTC

Also it gives the location as los Alamos new Mexico

2018-11-17 12:55:34 UTC

North of Santa Fe

2018-11-17 12:56:28 UTC

It's elevation is 2231 metres above sea level

2018-11-17 12:56:44 UTC

So you have a high vantage point

2018-11-17 13:02:01 UTC

@Samwise Your theory is interesting indeed. However, can you please provide an explanation for why the shadow moves over the moon starting from the top? If the sun is located at the opposite horizon, the shadow should start from the bottom.

2018-11-17 13:02:30 UTC

Not exactly

2018-11-17 13:02:43 UTC

If you look you'll see that the moon isn't full

2018-11-17 13:03:20 UTC

It's eclipsed with three quarters of the visible surface facing the earth

2018-11-17 13:04:08 UTC

Remember the moon orbits the earth, it also is influenced by the sun, depending on how much light is facing it

2018-11-17 13:04:17 UTC

So yeah

2018-11-17 13:04:33 UTC

Particles in the atmosphere tend to distort stuff

2018-11-17 13:05:21 UTC

I don't know if you know about the salt planes in Namibia?

2018-11-17 13:05:46 UTC

No I do not.

2018-11-17 13:06:23 UTC

It was a large lake that dried up leaving behind a dry, plane

2018-11-17 13:06:58 UTC

The wind would pick up huge amounts of dust particles into the atmosphere

2018-11-17 13:07:07 UTC

It creates a magnifying affect

2018-11-17 13:07:22 UTC

I've been there when I was like 13

2018-11-17 13:07:31 UTC

The moon was huuuuuuuuuge

2018-11-17 13:08:40 UTC

That still doesnโ€™t explain why the shadow moves down over the moon instead of upwards.

2018-11-17 13:08:49 UTC

I do have a question for the FE community: whats your explanation for tides?

2018-11-17 13:13:28 UTC

It's supposed to do that gwen

2018-11-17 13:14:30 UTC

@Mr Orb โ˜ญ The explanation for that is very scientific. I am not your best one to be asking that question. Something about electromagnetic energy.

2018-11-17 13:15:18 UTC

Electromagnetic energy? On tides?

2018-11-17 13:15:23 UTC

I learnt something

2018-11-17 13:16:30 UTC

Ohhhhj

2018-11-17 13:16:36 UTC

It's the earth's umbra

2018-11-17 13:16:56 UTC

You are seeing the earth's shadow gwen

2018-11-17 13:17:04 UTC

@Samwise No Sam. In a Selenilion eclipse, the sun is always on the opposite horizon as the moon. It is impossible for the shadow to move downwards.

2018-11-17 13:17:16 UTC

It's the earth's shadow

2018-11-17 13:18:03 UTC

You see

2018-11-17 13:18:14 UTC

@Samwise Itโ€™s obvious my questions are over your head. I will have to ask someone else then.

2018-11-17 13:18:14 UTC

It's also called a horizontal eclipse

2018-11-17 13:18:40 UTC

Gwen you are being condescending now

2018-11-17 13:18:54 UTC

This is over

2018-11-17 13:19:54 UTC

No. Iโ€™m not. You are. Telling me itโ€™s the earths shadow. That has to be the most idiotic scientific explanation Iโ€™ve ever come across.

2018-11-17 13:20:01 UTC

Umbra, penumbra and antumbra

2018-11-17 13:21:29 UTC

The selenelion only occurs just before sunset or after sunrise

2018-11-17 13:21:52 UTC

Both the moon and sun are roughly opposite each other

2018-11-17 13:22:17 UTC

Atmospheric refraction causes the perceived height difference

2018-11-17 13:22:32 UTC

The moon is in Earth's umbra

2018-11-17 13:23:17 UTC

This causes a Horizontal eclipse, which is why you are seeing the shadow go like that

2018-11-17 13:23:58 UTC

Maybe if you had the faintest scientific knowledge you'd understand what I'm saying before you elevate yourself

2018-11-17 13:25:53 UTC

Itโ€™s obvious you are unable to explain why the shadow moves downward instead of upwards like it should.

2018-11-17 13:26:42 UTC

Dont umbra penumbra multiple layers if shadow only happen with multiple light sources or if the light reflects off something? What could cause the penumbra other than the firmament bouncing light rays?

2018-11-17 13:28:00 UTC

@Deleted User Hey ๐Ÿ‘‹. Itโ€™s great to see you here. ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

2018-11-17 13:29:27 UTC

Hello

2018-11-17 13:32:35 UTC

Help me out here. This guy refuses to explain why the shadow on a Selenilion eclipse travels downward over the moon. I would like to know how his globe model can explain it. Heโ€™s not doing a very good job Iโ€™m afraid. ๐Ÿ™„

2018-11-17 13:41:32 UTC

Lel I give up

2018-11-17 13:41:51 UTC

Do you know what vertical and horizontal means?

2018-11-17 13:43:58 UTC

@Samwise The fact that you feel you need to ask me a stupid question like that tells me that you canโ€™t answer my question. Donโ€™t divert the conversation.

If you canโ€™t explain it, then just freaking say so. ๐Ÿ™„

2018-11-17 13:44:19 UTC

I'm not

2018-11-17 13:45:06 UTC

A selenilion is also called a horizontal eclipse

2018-11-17 13:45:38 UTC

Don't forget that atmospheric refraction is the only reason why it's possible to observe

2018-11-17 13:46:03 UTC

Yes meaning the shadow is moving perpendicular to the movement of a normal eclipse.

2018-11-17 13:46:43 UTC

Ok

2018-11-17 13:50:21 UTC

Maybe you're right, I mean if you think electromagnetic energy has anything to do with tides then yes I'm completely wrong and I accept your theory

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