like if you can close your eye's and "see" stuff by focusing on it; thats a dying ability; you could talk to entire schools of kids in some area's and like 1 or 2 out of classes might be able to do anything like that

You're not seeing, you're imagining.

"see" wasn't in " " for nothing

I honestly don't think the mark of the beast actually works

even if they marked my body with some foreign substance, wouldn't change my soul

Oh, you believe in the soul?

unless they didn't something like a lobotomy or some hack into my cerebrael nerves in the neck

that still wouldn't affect my soul, just my ability to function

its changing your DNA ; and preventing you from being able to dream/visulize/obe/remote view etc etc and in turn manifest experinces within divinity

without a doubt, the soul exists

So, what is the soul?

I think of the soul as a compass that is like a record of good and bad you have done in this existance

its an easy record of your life

Right

so at a glance a god can look at what you have done and determine where you should go in the afterlife

a god or angel can

GOD basically put souls into things to make his job easier

its a product of channeling; the bio-chemical and nerological components of the brain act like an electro magnetic reciever of sorts and based on how its designed/atuned (DNA and what kinda mindset its been grown into) change how/what you channel from the cosmic source of expression ; "Most" of western society is about the removal of thouse innate thought processes and using logical bs to enthrall your choices

How do you justify God?

I don't need to justify GOD

he exists, he does what he wants

He exists isn't a justification for his existence

Why do you believe him to exist is what I'm asking.

he doesn't need justification for his existance

he's a fact, it doesn't matter what you think

Ah. In Epistemology, that's a proposition we formally refer to as "nonsense."

even if everyone didn't realize he was around, he would still exist

he might even decide it was time to do away with this project

start anew

we got little say in the matter

He might, but until you can justify such things, it's just opinion.

so a link i posted here a long time ago showed how they map/imaged the patterns/shapes the brains nerons make when fireing during different trains of thoughts etc; and they found when processing these images/mapings the brain produces up to 11 dimentional shapes to "channel" the thoughts/words/emotions etc that we produce; and this aligns with a lot of essoteric/occult beliefes in the fact we are in essence synthetic expression within a matrix of electromagnetic reality

psalms 19.1

Surely even you could understand you're about engage in circular reasoning

firmament has been proven to exist, handiwork of GOD

If you really do believe in logic

your presuming I'm using reasoning

I'm not using reasoning to determine what is real

I'm using observations

Have you observed God?

reasoning is used to determine which model best represents reality

globe theory or flat earth theory

flat earth theory is more closer to reality

Mm, we're talking about God mate.

therefore GOD exists

So God is your opinions' validation?

bible is proven, at least old testament

the firmament might not be a phisical thing.... such as an energy projection/manifestation all it is if its within this reality is a product of "energy/light" being held in harmonic resonence within form/shape ; so what you gotta ask yourself is what "divine" entitiy would cage in a bubble world of dna test subjects to kill each other in unlawful "freedom" when they are products of layered construction... watch west world from HBO it'll paint reality for you real good lol

as I said before, it doesn't matter what I believe

truth is truth regardless of belief

just because I stumble onto it doesn't mean its less true or more true

How would you handle the claim truth doesn't exist the way you wish it to?

doesn't matter how you want to change truth

you can't change truth without GOD

Your conception of truth is a belief in-and-of-its-self; therefore, doesn't matter hwo yo wish to change a truth that—necessarily—pre-dates you.

GOD is the only one who can decide what the rules are

we are living within the rules he created

@^Kevin^ you know the biggest problem with the bible is most of its created under an oath not many commited too; and its very construction is a product of indoctrination/sedation

Right, but that's not true.

you can imagine that there is a huge space out there and we are spending tons of money to one day explore it, but what is actually happening is its a mass delusion and we are wasting money on a dead-end project that will never happen

clue -> haven't been back to moon in nearly 50 years

That's a non-sequitur.

@^Kevin^ I think you credit to much to "God" when there are so many steps between what "he" chooses and what those that channel spirit like us choose... like our dna for instance wasn't flushed out and formed by "god"... read the emerald tablets of toth some time and listen to people dive into it

imagine if you would a society where everyone was killing everyone else

our numbers would be drastically going down fast

as everyone murdered everyone else

I think the problem is that Kevin's defintion of "God" is his own belief-system

Which is actually incredibly blasphemous

my belief system doesn't change what GOD is

@^Kevin^ are there any "flash" names/titals of occult/essoteric books you could tell me you've studied/skimmed etc?

my brother studied the occult

waste of time

You're right—because your God is your belief system; therefore it could not change its' self, because you won't let it.

he told me that there was this mental magic few could master that was the ultimate form of occultism

agreed most of it is; how'ever its not in what you learn through the occult that changes you; its in the accumalitve sum of experinces that your lense of ego can draw from when subjected to an indepth broadening of such concepts

I was created by proxy by GOD, GOD isn't affected by my beliefs

Mhm, because your God is your belief; you refuse to re-evaluate your own worldview by saying all-caps GOD.

I think he deserves some respect and acknowledgement for being instrumental in us being here

Thank GOD

Oh I think so too, I just happen to know what you're conceiving of isn't the Christian God.

defminitely not, I follow the jewish GOD in the old testament that promotes monotheism

thats like saying a I dropped a sandwitch by an ant hill and thus the next 2 generations where created by "god" le me; when they where already there, and i never changed them in essence

the same Jewish GOD that Jesus followed

The Jewish & Christian God are the same God mate

I don't follow Jesus, I follow his god

Jesus isn't a god, he was a man

Christians believe this also.

Jesus was a jewish man

not a god

Yes.

I don't follow 3 in 1 nonsense either, father son and holy ghost are paganism

I don't hold sabbath on fake days, by a distorted calendar

So you're just a Jew?

I'm a reformed jew

Right.

I wouldn't say just a jew

do you know that jesus went through "Most" of if not all and more of the same traditional growth/practices that most shamens go through? in essence "jesus" was just another channeler and any of his followers could have been/done and acted as him and used the term jesus to cover for the identity of all those that did the work of the lord....

I would say I'm one of the chosen

one of the few who isn't running around doing paganism or breaking the 10 commandments

You mean like pretending to understand God's will and ramblign about the shape of the Earth?