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it solves linear wave equation
3d wave equation
Yes, many things nothing to do with the aether solve a wave equation
the ether implies wave equation
wave equation is basicly the ether
No, basic maths implies the wave equation
No it's not at all
so what does the ether imply?
That's obviously completely untrue. Is a wave in a pool due to the aether?
The fact that waves can exist in an aether, does not mean waves cannot exist without an aether
you do know the ether is the idea that there is a medium that transmitts the waves right?
Yes
That transmits waves of light
Not any wave
Einstien did away with the Ether
^ Kevin is right there, a stopped clock is right twice a day
someone was saying that was where he made a mistake, you need a medium for light to move thru
just because that is an assertion I saw doesn't make it right or wrong
I did no thought into it other than to note the assertion
so give me an experement that implies an ether
actually tell me what an ether actually means
A medium for the propagation of light is what the aether actually means.
yes
altho its simpler than that because all you can tell is that there is a medium but cant tell what the medium actually is
the properties of the medium are up for question tho
No, it is not simpler than that.
ok
The aether is a medium for the propagation of light, not anything else.
ok
so how would you know there is a medium?
Water, a medium for propagation of water waves, is not an aether.
ok tell me how you would know there is a medium?
You would know there is a medium by seeing what there being a medium predicts, and testing it and seeing if this matches experiment. If it does not match experiment, there isn't a medium.
It's been tested, it does not match experiment.
that depends on the properties of the medium tho
lorents ether theory simply states that the ether is a motionless medium that follows the wave equation
Every aether model, does not match experiment.
false
lorents ether theory simply states that the ether is a motionless medium that follows the wave equation
Lorentz's aether model states a **lot** more assumptions than that, and regardless, does not match experiment.
the wave equation has properties that allow those results
The medium also does not follow the wave equation.
Propagations in it do.
dont be that picky with what i say
... No, if you say something untrue I will correct it.
the medium follows the wave equation
i will stand by that because you know what i mean by that
No, it does not.
I know what you mean by that, I also know what that means.
What you mean by that, is not what that means.
in the first 8 minutes of this globe busters video they talk about math not matching reality
ok what does it actually mean when i say that?
When you say that it means exactly what it says. The medium follows the wave equation.
It doesn't. Propagations in the medium do.
tell me what it means instead of stating what i said
It means exactly what it says.
The medium follows the wave equation.
i dont see a problem with that
There isn't any simpler to put it. The medium does not follow the wave equation, propagations in it do.
i donmt see a difrence
exsept my way is more general
I don't see how you can't see a difference. Your way is not more general.
e.g. waves in a pool follow the wave equation. The pool does not.
This is very straightforward.
A propagation in a medium, is not the medium.
any states of the medium thru time follo0w the wave equation
the wave equation has no consept of propogation
....
the wave equation = u_xx=u_tt
.... Yes, I know.
this seems to be a problem of semantics
and its not an important one
thats why i said dont be picky
No, it does not, it seems to be a problem with you not understanding what you're talking about
iits a problem with you not willing to drop it and move on
as its not important
Ok we'll drop that you're talking nonsense and don't have a clue about what the aether is and move on then
this is a particle moving at 0.707 the speed of light
to the right
you simply apply the lorentz transformations and it remains a solution to teh wave equation
(i use a modified version of the wave equation tho to render this)
the wave equation i perfer is iu_t=u_xx
yes it does break the symmetry but so does adding more dimentions
... I thought we were dropping this nonsense you don't understand?
i cant drop something i dident pickup
i dident pickup nonsense
im not advocating ether as a theory
im simply saying its not contradictory
with relativity
(special relativity)
and that relativities origins came from ether
Yes, I have agreed with an exceptionally convoluted and unnatural model of the aether you can predict the same results as special relativity. But add in gravitation, and even very unnatural aether models can't fit the results.
true
well actually i dont know
there are ether theories that are consistent with general relativity but so far ive heard its convoluted
unless its convoluted in its derivation process
There aren't aether theories that are consistent with general relativity
i personaly think in science its more lijkely true if its foundations are simpler not its derived predictions
altho they are less usefull
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