General Hux was a caricature. Snoke was just pointless. Kylo isn't even a villain. He's a love interest.

im never going to see another star wars for one reason

TLJ killed the storyline

Star Wars to me is the original trilogy and nothing more. Everything beyond the unedited first three movies was a mistake.

That wouldve been awesome, to have something to show luke's years of experience

I kept hoping for that right up to the moment he died

Thought he was going to block all the lasers or pull rocks to build a wall as he was being shot at

maybe they could have a dearth vader droid - that can somehow take jedi's abilities to use the force for itself

Anyway, they don't need Luke. They have Leia. She can apparently fly and come back from the dead.

And Rey is so strong she doesn't even need lessons.

Im not really sure where the storyline will go from here

It doesnt even seem like the rebels have a chance anymore

No republic, no allies, no fleet, no leadership

I imagine it will be something about her parents

I don't even want to see it. My friends will drag me to it and I'll have to smile and try not to ruin their fun.

I heard they're trying to get a role for Lando somehow.

but hes an iky man ... far too much toxic masculinity already

Lando has privilege points now.

I really dont want to accept that explanation for the writing, yet I cant think of any evidence that contradicts it

Perhaps solo will have some male positive actions in it

Well, you have Finn and Poe left. Finn is mostly characterized by running away and being wrong. Poe is mostly characterized by disobeying and getting people killed.

Poe is pretty much guaranteed to die.

He has no love interest, no real reason to be kept around. His death would be a useful plot device.

So they could have him do something self-sacrificing, or have him die due to betrayal.

But he's a dead man walking.

And Finn's role in the next film is to realize that he's only infatuated with Rey and actually loves Rose. And he'll show this in some climatic scene by repeating the words Rose told him at the end of TLJ.

wait rose is trans in canon?

I think he was joking, but who knows at this point.

The surname of the actress is Tran

i dont actually think she should have been harrassed for this movie, its easy to blame the actors for the way a movie is but its not correct

Of course she shouldn't be harassed.

i believe the director/writer should be HEAVLY critisized till the day he dies, but also not harrassed

The people doing the harassing are extremely immature and are basically throwing a childish tantrum because they can't think of a constructive outlet for their anger.

There's nothing wrong with being angry that something you love is being ruined, but it needs to be channeled in a constructive way. Tons of people have produced videos or written articles explaining all the problems with the movie, and that's completely legit.

But harassing someone who had basically no hand in causing the problem? Completely stupid.

This is the problem with the internet. It is not harassment she was getting. If 10,000 people each decide to send you a message telling you what a prick you are, you are not being harassed. It seems like it from your end but from the people sending the message they have only sent one message. Any ideas on how the square that circle?

Don't use your real life identity online? Dropping pseudonymity from the internet was a mistake.

That's not going to work if you are already in the public eye and even if you are anon have a tirade of ppl sending you messages can make your accounts nearly use able.

Perhaps develop a thicker skin?

Basically.

Not allow the opinions of random people on the internet to influence your state of mind/opinions on things?

If you're putting yourself out in public with millions and millions of people looking at you, then you need to be able to deal with the fact that at least some of those millions are assholes.

If you can't deal with that, don't go online with your real identity.

Given the population of the world and internet connectivity, you probably have to be willing to put up with at least a million people hating your guts

Especially if you're a public figure or celebrity.

The whole point of pseudonymity is protection. Protecting your real life from online assholes.

Now that we've abandoned that paradigm in favor of using your actual identity online, you can either learn to deal with assholes yourself, or get censorious.

there is an actual problem here that isint as simple as "if you cant stand the heat stay out of the kitchen"

though this problem might be older than the internet

I understand all that and I agree. But if you are a public figure and want a presence online but hundreds on thousands of people hate you, none of individually harassing you but each sending a message you would spend over half your time banning people. Thats not having thin skin thats not having the time to enjoy the net.

Do the messages pop up when you open your browser?

Too bad. Have a separate pseudonymous account for actually using the internet. Have another publicity page managed by your agent.

Do they prevent you from using the internet until youve awnsered each one?

As far as im aware you can freely ignore messages and continue to browse the internet.

before the internet i have to imagine that public figures got hate mail, though probably not in the quantity that they probably get online messages. still your ways of dealing with either the old form of hate and the new form of hate have to be exactly the same, as they are the same thing in principle dispite different quantity and media form. however, are people who are assholes completely absolved of their actions dispite only being individuals who have all their attention pointing in the the same direction? people should be strong enough to get over assholes, but at the same time assholes are bad

If you think that a celebrity can actually have an account on Twitter or Instagram or whatever where they just act like a regular normie jackoff and not have an experience different from joe blow, you're nuts.

but they may want to be normal

Like should Trump expect that his Twitter is going to be free of harassment?

theres a difference between a politician who has control over life and death of millions compaired to an actor

I disagree, but what about Kanye then?

you disagree? how can you disagree?

Should he be able to post his thoughts on social media without getting dogpiled?

its a different job

its so different that the comparison is mindboggling

its like apples to dogs

Because if celebrities must be kept safe from negative comments, these social media companies are going to have to invest heavily in censoring technology.

Humans won't be able to handle the job.

A small time actor will not have a money to have someone manage their account and yes it can stop you from using the net. You have to read a mesage to work out if you want to ban that person. Therer come a point where you are spending more time blocking ppl than have a convocation.

now were discussing something different

No, we're not. If you're a celebrity you're an idiot if you're associating your real name and identity to a social media account you actually intend to use for personal use.

And if you don't intend to use it for personal use, then you have to expect to receive criticism.

What about the account you set up to talk to your fans?

You're going to get hate.

You have to learn to deal with it.

theres a difference between criticism and insult

Too bad. The internet isn't a nice place.

The only way to turn the internet into a hugbox is powerful machine-driven censorship.

your responce to the problem is "i like the way things are and anyone who has a problem with the way things are legitiment or not can fuck off" its not a very useful responce

Because this isn't a problem.

it is a problem

You do have the right to insult someone

its older than the internet

If I go down to speaker's corner and say stuff that people don't like, I can expect a crowd to yell shit at me.

You do not have the right to make them listen to your insults

It's not a bug. It's a feature.

The only way to prevent the crowd yelling shit at me is censorship.

The crowd is just bigger online.

the internet for these people is like a place where to expose themselves as who they really are requires them to be exposed to mobs, mob sized quantitys of both praise and hate. its like walking down the street to the groscery store while being followed by thousands of people cheering and booing constantly and your responce is "the only way to solve this (and i would even take the time to consiter any other solution) would ruin everything so this person has to suffer the consaquences of the system"

They can make a pseudonymous account. They do not have to use their real identity.

how fun

What is your proposal?

i havent gotten to one yet, ive been to busy pointing out how giving up on finding a solution isint a solution

^^

its simply the status quo until something better comes along

"something better" is probably going to be some form of machine driven censorship, because how else are you going to prevent people from saying what they want to say to a public figure on social media?

some bot will detect an insult and shadowban you. the celebrity gets to bask in a sea of only positive comments.

something better is subjective i can conceed but i leave something better into the hands of universal acceptence to actually agree on an preposed idea that is actually good and not just seemingly good to one group of people. your seemingly good is also subjective and only applicible to people who think the same as you, its just that i believe your idea of doing nothing is better than doing worse. im open to doing better though. however my argument has been more toward not presuposing that someone your talking to who is looking for a solution will only assume a solution that you dont agree with and is the solution you assume is the only one they can come up with before they have even postulated one

i think one big problem is that these ppl seem to think that the only way to deal with the shit is to delete their account, when we all know that if you give it a few weeks it will die down and ppl will of moved on and any coming after that should be easier to manage.

wow that was a lot of words to say you don't know

you have a career in politics ahead of you