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2018-09-20 05:51:00 UTC

NPCs cant see god XD

2018-09-20 05:51:08 UTC

in the way that knowing you will die

2018-09-20 05:51:16 UTC

you are content with your own actions

2018-09-20 05:51:24 UTC

and how youve treated other people

2018-09-20 05:51:29 UTC

Ugh

2018-09-20 05:51:31 UTC

right but why does anything have meaning?

2018-09-20 05:51:39 UTC

like what's the point?

2018-09-20 05:51:42 UTC

beliveing there is nothing on the other side

2018-09-20 05:51:50 UTC

the motivation has to be something that transcends life itself

2018-09-20 05:51:57 UTC

otheriwse we'd all just be destrutive

2018-09-20 05:52:21 UTC

I don't know whether I should be living a life of schaudenfreude and gain, or fight for a future I deem 'moral'

2018-09-20 05:52:31 UTC

that you can be content with yourself

2018-09-20 05:52:35 UTC

like, you believe that life will continue after you die, why should you believe that?

2018-09-20 05:52:55 UTC

why isn't it just as practical do say that your consciousness is existence itself

2018-09-20 05:53:07 UTC

You should believe that all humans are deserving of dignity and fight for universal justice.

2018-09-20 05:53:15 UTC

Nah.

2018-09-20 05:53:15 UTC

because the very nature of a sentient being transcends ones own life

2018-09-20 05:53:31 UTC

and without your consciousness existence stops, because if there's no afterlife, or no transcendence, isn't it the same?

2018-09-20 05:53:38 UTC

it doesnt have to be some eternal improvable beleif

2018-09-20 05:53:49 UTC

to transcend the only measure that one person can have

2018-09-20 05:53:52 UTC

and that is one life

2018-09-20 05:53:56 UTC

thats all it takes

2018-09-20 05:54:06 UTC

This is stuff I tackled back in high school lol

2018-09-20 05:54:07 UTC

alas

2018-09-20 05:54:09 UTC

transcendence itself implies a departure from reality

2018-09-20 05:54:13 UTC

i am not the only person on earth

2018-09-20 05:54:17 UTC

so that's the divine

2018-09-20 05:54:20 UTC

no

2018-09-20 05:54:25 UTC

why not?

2018-09-20 05:54:29 UTC

a departure from your individual reality

2018-09-20 05:54:36 UTC

that is all you can confirm

2018-09-20 05:54:41 UTC

why should you believe any other exists?

2018-09-20 05:54:48 UTC

Why would you depart that?

2018-09-20 05:54:50 UTC

to do so is to have nothing but faith

2018-09-20 05:54:53 UTC

any sort of reach outside of that will never be known

2018-09-20 05:55:10 UTC

and if having faith in the divine is silly, so is having faith in subjective reality

2018-09-20 05:55:21 UTC

Wat.

2018-09-20 05:55:31 UTC

lol

2018-09-20 05:55:38 UTC

nonono you misunderstand

2018-09-20 05:56:01 UTC

one individuals reality can only be defiend by what they themselves perceive

2018-09-20 05:56:10 UTC

so

2018-09-20 05:56:13 UTC

but why? by what right?

2018-09-20 05:56:25 UTC

what is the force that makes this so?

2018-09-20 05:56:25 UTC

Personal experience is more or less the only thing we can confirm.

2018-09-20 05:56:43 UTC

you have a brain right?

2018-09-20 05:56:47 UTC

but how do you know

2018-09-20 05:56:55 UTC

Who cares what the force is.

2018-09-20 05:57:02 UTC

luckily we live in the age of information

2018-09-20 05:57:03 UTC

You perceive things v

2018-09-20 05:57:05 UTC

because it causes me pain from time to time and i can sense it ๐Ÿ˜„

2018-09-20 05:57:14 UTC

so we can actually see a dead persons brains

2018-09-20 05:57:19 UTC

XD

2018-09-20 05:57:45 UTC

now while i dont see there even being an evolutionary reason for an afterlife

2018-09-20 05:57:53 UTC

brains are for NPCs

2018-09-20 05:58:01 UTC

i have an eternal soul

2018-09-20 05:58:18 UTC

i compeltley understand the search for ones eternal self

2018-09-20 05:58:21 UTC

Do you honestly believe that?

2018-09-20 05:58:26 UTC

no lol

2018-09-20 05:58:31 UTC

its a meme

2018-09-20 05:58:37 UTC

I'm getting lost in the irony here.

2018-09-20 05:58:41 UTC

and the eternal self of every person that has and will ever exist

2018-09-20 05:58:52 UTC

but nothing is eternal

2018-09-20 05:58:56 UTC

(ie god)

2018-09-20 05:58:58 UTC

unless you believe in the divine

2018-09-20 05:59:01 UTC

thats the point ๐Ÿ˜

2018-09-20 05:59:16 UTC

claiming to even be able to peceive that

2018-09-20 05:59:25 UTC

The Jordan Peterson discord is that a way

2018-09-20 05:59:29 UTC

is just agrandising yourself

2018-09-20 05:59:46 UTC

claiming to be above that is doing LITERALLY THE SAME THING

2018-09-20 06:00:05 UTC

This conversation is getting too gay.

2018-09-20 06:00:14 UTC

we need spirited words

2018-09-20 06:00:18 UTC

instead of text walls

2018-09-20 06:00:29 UTC

the blood sports aspect makes it waaaaaaaaaaayyyyy better

2018-09-20 06:00:48 UTC

very much more gooder

2018-09-20 06:01:02 UTC

so trying to base your value in something you by definition shouldnt be able to percive

2018-09-20 06:01:07 UTC

Yeah I wanna hear rants

2018-09-20 06:01:10 UTC

is actually more nihilistic

2018-09-20 06:01:18 UTC

i disagree

2018-09-20 06:01:20 UTC

Our existence is so fucking nightmarish.

2018-09-20 06:01:42 UTC

We're wayyyyy too self aware.

2018-09-20 06:01:51 UTC

yeah

2018-09-20 06:01:57 UTC

well in some aspects

2018-09-20 06:02:06 UTC

To where battle for perception and information is at the forefront.

2018-09-20 06:02:39 UTC

if you cant perceive something

2018-09-20 06:02:49 UTC

why not base value in things you can perceive

2018-09-20 06:03:10 UTC

And we just shit all over the planet acting with our ape brains, but are high on this accidental unprecedented capacity for abstraction.

2018-09-20 06:03:39 UTC

the general idea being that while for a long time

2018-09-20 06:03:45 UTC

Honestly, I'd prefer us dead.

2018-09-20 06:04:05 UTC

a sort of cookie cutter template for value has worked

2018-09-20 06:04:11 UTC

Before we bring imperialism to space.

2018-09-20 06:04:52 UTC

we actually have the privlege of having access for the meantime an actual mechanism for determining the own value in our lives

2018-09-20 06:05:09 UTC

through tangible hands on methods

2018-09-20 06:05:13 UTC

That is a red herring.

2018-09-20 06:05:24 UTC

Why would we want that?

2018-09-20 06:05:46 UTC

to give our lives real meaning

2018-09-20 06:05:53 UTC

No way.

2018-09-20 06:06:04 UTC

It does no such thing.

2018-09-20 06:06:05 UTC

oh u mean the space imperialism thing

2018-09-20 06:06:15 UTC

no i agree thats not the best idea

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