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2018-07-29 18:10:17 UTC

k

2018-07-29 18:10:27 UTC

Taxing the very rich hasn't worked

2018-07-29 18:10:31 UTC

It's decreased jobs

2018-07-29 18:10:32 UTC

I wanna see this after he types his paragraph

2018-07-29 18:10:48 UTC

Ronald Reagan's trickle down plan created millions of jobs

2018-07-29 18:10:56 UTC

"Trumped-up trickle down" lmao

2018-07-29 18:11:01 UTC

lmao

2018-07-29 18:11:02 UTC

Why do libs say that was a disaster

2018-07-29 18:11:12 UTC

I really don't know

2018-07-29 18:11:12 UTC

So, economics is clear: taxing normally is not good for the economy. You just take money out of the market, and more often than not it doesn't do enough good to overcome the opportunity cost of that loss. However, there is a difference between theory in practice. The rich don't always use their money to help the economy. More often than not they just sit on it and buy more for themselves. It becomes necessary, therefore, for the government to tax them a little, to use the money the way the rich should use it on their own. Also, some social services are needed in every nation and need funding. The rich can sacrifice a seventh house to help out people. So, my ideal tax system is for no taxes on poor and middle class, decent taxes on the rich, and low taxes on corporations and businesses.

2018-07-29 18:11:15 UTC

Bill clinton took credit riding off of Reagans economy

2018-07-29 18:11:48 UTC

@LOTR_1 Why not low taxes for everyone

2018-07-29 18:11:59 UTC

Why become rich if you're going to get taxed to shit

2018-07-29 18:12:05 UTC

Where is the motivation to get wealthy

2018-07-29 18:12:19 UTC

You shouldn't dilute someone's hard work to everyone else

2018-07-29 18:12:24 UTC

Because its not like we make them poor as rats for being rich lmao.

2018-07-29 18:12:40 UTC

they are still incredibly well off.

2018-07-29 18:12:55 UTC

With your plan

2018-07-29 18:13:02 UTC

We'd eventaully tax humongous amounts

2018-07-29 18:13:11 UTC

Because humans are inherently greedy

2018-07-29 18:13:19 UTC

The rich would no longer be rich

2018-07-29 18:13:23 UTC

Because everyone would be the same

2018-07-29 18:13:26 UTC

Then everyone is poor

2018-07-29 18:13:27 UTC

Money has no value

2018-07-29 18:13:30 UTC

No one creates jobs

2018-07-29 18:13:32 UTC

The US falls

2018-07-29 18:13:39 UTC

And it collapses with nothing left but communism

2018-07-29 18:13:42 UTC

Like the great Mao did to China

2018-07-29 18:14:12 UTC

Build

2018-07-29 18:14:13 UTC

That

2018-07-29 18:14:15 UTC

Wall

2018-07-29 18:14:16 UTC

WALL

2018-07-29 18:14:25 UTC

I rather put money towards a wall than global warming funding

2018-07-29 18:14:37 UTC

Fix global warming funding

2018-07-29 18:14:39 UTC

35% corp taxes ๐Ÿคข

2018-07-29 18:14:41 UTC

Waste of money

2018-07-29 18:14:45 UTC

Taxes suck

2018-07-29 18:14:51 UTC

Tim Cook yearly income: $10.3 million. 30% tax takes $3 million roughly. Leaves the poor guy with 7 million a year. So poor.

2018-07-29 18:14:55 UTC

The rich are rich because they outplayed other people in the socioeconomic ladder, why is it their job to pick up the slack for people that failed at adulthood?

2018-07-29 18:15:03 UTC

Air is cleaner right now than it was in 1990

2018-07-29 18:15:08 UTC

@Boethiah Finally someone gets it

2018-07-29 18:15:10 UTC

Why would we spend even more

2018-07-29 18:15:23 UTC

Why dillute someone's wealth when they just achieved it

2018-07-29 18:15:26 UTC

Doesn't seem very motivating

2018-07-29 18:15:31 UTC

Considering that China and India puts off more in a week than we do in a year

2018-07-29 18:15:38 UTC

Most of the rich, including Trump, just inherited it from daddy

2018-07-29 18:15:45 UTC

Their dads worked hard?

2018-07-29 18:15:58 UTC

You can always trace money back to hard work SOMEWHERE

2018-07-29 18:15:59 UTC

they probably inherited it too lol

2018-07-29 18:16:10 UTC

Right, a starting loan magically becomes an empire out of nowhere. How deluded can you be lmao

2018-07-29 18:16:12 UTC

but I'm not saying we take it away

2018-07-29 18:16:25 UTC

We should take an even amount away from everyone

2018-07-29 18:16:30 UTC

God forbid anyone inherit anything

2018-07-29 18:16:48 UTC

God forbid someone is allowed to leave their children something

2018-07-29 18:16:54 UTC

I inherited my grandfather's gun collection

2018-07-29 18:16:55 UTC

Was gr8

2018-07-29 18:16:56 UTC

No where did I say wealth needs to be destroyed. They get to stay very rich no matter how they made it.

2018-07-29 18:17:05 UTC

Hey someone give me 100 bucks so I can run a business chain that spans the world real quick, it's easy as that apparently

2018-07-29 18:17:26 UTC

Trump had a million

2018-07-29 18:17:27 UTC

A small loan of a million tiny pennies

2018-07-29 18:17:31 UTC

Also what people donโ€™t understand is that even inheritance takes a lot to maintain

2018-07-29 18:17:38 UTC

A million turned into billions

2018-07-29 18:17:45 UTC

That's no easy task lmao

2018-07-29 18:17:45 UTC

Stock assets require constant eyeing

2018-07-29 18:17:58 UTC

Trump had amillion and runs far more than one worldwide chain, I scaled it down to fit the loan

2018-07-29 18:17:59 UTC

I didn't say he didn't work hard

2018-07-29 18:18:12 UTC

Also what people donโ€™t understand

2018-07-29 18:18:25 UTC

Saying he just inherited it is saying he didn't work for it

2018-07-29 18:18:26 UTC

And no where did I say the rich don't deserve their money

2018-07-29 18:18:30 UTC

Is that the standard loan for a startup business is a hundred thousand

2018-07-29 18:18:33 UTC

And most fail

2018-07-29 18:19:17 UTC

I'm not saying anything like 70% tax lmfao, 25-30% hardly leaves a dent in their wealth.

2018-07-29 18:19:17 UTC

Man turned a million into 6 billion

2018-07-29 18:19:24 UTC

With 120 following businesses

2018-07-29 18:19:39 UTC

They are already taxed 34%

2018-07-29 18:19:44 UTC

Just on federal

2018-07-29 18:19:47 UTC

You know rich people were taxed to shit under oba,ma

2018-07-29 18:19:49 UTC

Like 50%

2018-07-29 18:19:53 UTC

Not counting state and local

2018-07-29 18:19:56 UTC

Ah, the loopholes are the killer

2018-07-29 18:20:18 UTC

they put their money offshore and don't pay any tax on it

2018-07-29 18:20:18 UTC

God forbid people get discounts for donating to cancer research

2018-07-29 18:20:22 UTC

And other charities

2018-07-29 18:20:39 UTC

the Cayman Islands is a charity?

2018-07-29 18:20:45 UTC

Things that will increase the PR of their company

2018-07-29 18:21:00 UTC

Why don't those charities just inherit the money like lmao use your brain charities

2018-07-29 18:21:47 UTC

Fix the loophole if you donโ€™t like the Cayman Islands scheme

2018-07-29 18:21:57 UTC

Donโ€™t increase taxes on those that donโ€™t use it

2018-07-29 18:22:09 UTC

To fill the gap of those that do

2018-07-29 18:22:11 UTC

Loopholes is the main issue yes

2018-07-29 18:23:18 UTC

So why increase taxes?

2018-07-29 18:24:46 UTC

We don't have to increase them that much, if at all. I'm not an expert on the current supply and demand here, so I can't put out exact percentages.

2018-07-29 18:29:39 UTC

How about we cut off welfare to all that aren't physically disabled and use the revenue from that instead

2018-07-29 18:30:26 UTC

I bet people will stop pumping out children they can't afford real quick when the free food for them stops flowing and they have to face their hungry faces

2018-07-29 18:30:47 UTC

foreigners shouldnt get government dole

2018-07-29 18:31:01 UTC

refugees shouldnt get free gov funded houses either

2018-07-29 18:31:14 UTC

It's not just foreign, sadly plenty of domestic leeches too

2018-07-29 18:31:36 UTC

tbh i want to just abolish the benefits system entirely

2018-07-29 18:32:32 UTC

There are some cases where it's needed like people actually crippled especially those that had it happen in the line of duty for our country ie military/police/firefighters

2018-07-29 18:33:04 UTC

Anyone able bodied or calling being a fatass a disability should be cut off cold turkey

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