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2019-01-05 22:40:17 UTC

It will basically become rule by corporations

2019-01-05 22:40:21 UTC

but itโ€™s closer

2019-01-05 22:40:24 UTC

Because private property requires law

2019-01-05 22:40:25 UTC

all anarchy is garbage

2019-01-05 22:40:28 UTC

How the hell does that happen, dickwad?

2019-01-05 22:40:32 UTC

Everything is violence, water. Tell me what is special about physical pain

2019-01-05 22:40:45 UTC

@Water who will have the most control

2019-01-05 22:41:02 UTC

Nobody has any control over another individual.

2019-01-05 22:41:14 UTC

then how the fuck will corps function

2019-01-05 22:41:21 UTC

Voluntary association.

2019-01-05 22:41:27 UTC

I will have control over my family

2019-01-05 22:41:41 UTC

Ownership is a legal term, no law no ownership

2019-01-05 22:41:46 UTC

I will exert control over anyone trying to challenge me

2019-01-05 22:41:48 UTC

it's really quite simple

2019-01-05 22:41:49 UTC

you donโ€™t get to shoot your wife if she does something youโ€™re not happy with, Bear.

2019-01-05 22:41:56 UTC

Yea, what backing do you have over your private property

2019-01-05 22:42:00 UTC

I will exert control over anyone that is a threat to my objectives

2019-01-05 22:42:08 UTC

a gun?

2019-01-05 22:42:11 UTC

I can make her die of hunger, Water

2019-01-05 22:42:21 UTC

Bearer owns the property

2019-01-05 22:42:27 UTC

his wife is on his property

2019-01-05 22:42:33 UTC

no laws to protect is wife

2019-01-05 22:42:45 UTC

stepping on someone elseโ€™s property isnโ€™t violence, moron.

2019-01-05 22:42:49 UTC

You are relying solely on morality to protect people

2019-01-05 22:43:02 UTC

Invading is a threat that is solved with violence

2019-01-05 22:43:13 UTC

This is part of the nap

2019-01-05 22:43:26 UTC

If someone comes on your property with the intent to seriously harm you, and continues to act toward that, you can shoot emโ€™

2019-01-05 22:43:34 UTC

but them being there isnโ€™t inherently aggressive.

2019-01-05 22:43:43 UTC

what if they are on your property

2019-01-05 22:43:46 UTC

yet refuse to leave

2019-01-05 22:43:51 UTC

but doesnt want to hurt you

2019-01-05 22:44:03 UTC

physical removal, the only way they can stay is if they try to harm you.

2019-01-05 22:44:03 UTC

Thats still a violation of the NAP

2019-01-05 22:44:04 UTC

If someone is occupying part of your property, they are taking away your right of ownership

2019-01-05 22:44:14 UTC

how will you physically remove them

2019-01-05 22:45:01 UTC

im getting flashbacks from the naked ape server

2019-01-05 22:45:08 UTC

depends on your level of escalation.

2019-01-05 22:45:26 UTC

iโ€™d tell them to get off your property, and if that doesnโ€™t work do it again with a weapon.

2019-01-05 22:45:35 UTC

if they continue to refuse shove emโ€™ off.

2019-01-05 22:45:43 UTC

shoving?

2019-01-05 22:45:50 UTC

that can be considered violence

2019-01-05 22:46:22 UTC

generally an attempt to significantly harm another unprovoked would be considered aggression.

2019-01-05 22:46:36 UTC

it went from violence to aggression

2019-01-05 22:46:58 UTC

They deal with the same ideas.

2019-01-05 22:46:58 UTC

Water, how long are you into politics?

2019-01-05 22:47:02 UTC

^

2019-01-05 22:47:27 UTC

iโ€™ve been libertarian/ancap for 2-3 years, but iโ€™ve been around politics for my whole life.

2019-01-05 22:47:37 UTC

Everyone starts as either a reactionary communist or a reactionary libertarian

2019-01-05 22:47:39 UTC

Ive been authright since paris attacks

2019-01-05 22:48:02 UTC

the closest to capitalism ive been was during my monarchy days

2019-01-05 22:48:09 UTC

but that was when I was still sorta new

2019-01-05 22:48:12 UTC

to economics

2019-01-05 22:49:17 UTC

whatโ€™s wrong with capitalism?

2019-01-05 22:49:42 UTC

It degenerates culture

2019-01-05 22:49:55 UTC

It puts profit over culture

2019-01-05 22:50:00 UTC

The search for profit is detrimental to the long term availability of everything

2019-01-05 22:50:06 UTC

what do you think capitalism is?

2019-01-05 22:50:26 UTC

Capitalism is a term coined by Marx, it already starts bad

2019-01-05 22:50:41 UTC

eh, the origin of terminology doesnโ€™t make it illegitimate.

2019-01-05 22:50:47 UTC

It is a societal structure of the ownership of the means of production

2019-01-05 22:51:02 UTC

Im surprised pinochet wanst brought up yet

2019-01-05 22:51:07 UTC

i would say that true capitalism is unregulated trade.

2019-01-05 22:51:08 UTC

Marx isn't bad as an economist tbh

2019-01-05 22:51:15 UTC

@Water so cpaitalism never existed

2019-01-05 22:51:15 UTC

Etymologically speaking, it's the societal search for profit rather than social goals

2019-01-05 22:51:31 UTC

im sure it existed at some point, but not in the way youโ€™re thinking.

2019-01-05 22:52:00 UTC

So you're saying that money destroyed capitalism

2019-01-05 22:52:01 UTC

something can be partially capitalist, but absolute capitalism has never really been implemented.

2019-01-05 22:52:17 UTC

federal notes are retarded, yes.

2019-01-05 22:52:27 UTC

thatโ€™s the edgy name for money.

2019-01-05 22:52:34 UTC

epic, anprim is the only true ancap

2019-01-05 22:52:37 UTC

He basically founded the modern study of economics.
Also, your definition is objectivly wrong @Water and you can know that just by reading the wiki article on capitalism tbh femme

2019-01-05 22:52:50 UTC

li b tard

2019-01-05 22:53:01 UTC

Not an argument

2019-01-05 22:53:02 UTC

so water wants...anprim

2019-01-05 22:53:05 UTC

Wikipedia does not determine all things.

2019-01-05 22:53:15 UTC

Anprim is against the invention of technology

2019-01-05 22:53:30 UTC

Everything is technology

2019-01-05 22:53:30 UTC

would you be ok with transhumanism

2019-01-05 22:53:32 UTC

No, but this isn't really something up for debate you know.

2019-01-05 22:53:52 UTC

And Marx coined the term, you can't reframe it to what you like

2019-01-05 22:54:02 UTC

anprims are a damn joke

2019-01-05 22:54:11 UTC

water would you be ok with transhumanism

2019-01-05 22:54:16 UTC

If youโ€™d prefer the term โ€œfree marketsโ€ to capitalism, thatโ€™s fine.

2019-01-05 22:54:17 UTC

An anything is a joke

2019-01-05 22:54:19 UTC

All "an-" are a joke

2019-01-05 22:54:41 UTC

thatโ€™s a good point

2019-01-05 22:54:50 UTC

the only thing anarchy could be good for is a reset

2019-01-05 22:54:54 UTC

Yes, like political philosophy 101 deals with these abominations and why they are wrong

2019-01-05 22:54:55 UTC

not a goal

2019-01-05 22:54:57 UTC

If transhumanism doesnโ€™t involve the imitation of force, go ahead.

2019-01-05 22:55:07 UTC

Fake christian

2019-01-05 22:55:09 UTC

>Christian

2019-01-05 22:55:12 UTC

anarchism is more of a symptom than an ideal of ancaps.

2019-01-05 22:55:14 UTC

>Ok with Transhumanism

2019-01-05 22:55:33 UTC

Technology can certainly allow something we would consider an evolution of current humans.

2019-01-05 22:55:49 UTC

anarchism is the absolute right of free association, not a symptom, you still know nothing about terms and keep trying to reframe them

2019-01-05 22:55:57 UTC

water, youre sounding like a liberal focusing on violence

2019-01-05 22:56:08 UTC

if it hurt dopamine it bad

2019-01-05 22:56:18 UTC

i have exactly one idea, donโ€™t initiate violence against others.

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