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@SamanthaM again, I just want to stress that you are correct, cohabitating is immoral, I just don't see a way around it
Major cost is the reception. Holding it at someone's home is a great way to save on that expense.
Pretty sure the wedding is expensive as *you* make it
unless you need a church or what not for religious stuffs
@John O - It's tough. Sin in the modern world is almost unavoidable.
Im glad ive found people who agree that living together isnt wholesome
redpill me on how it's a sin
I need to start going to Church again
@Deleted User because it leads to premarital sex
Some couples who live together are basically married but without the formality
*most
eh, I guess I can see that
Putting yourself in situations where someone you love is sleeping right next to you = premarital sex
Which is avoidable
I don't know, man, if I'm living with a girl, I'm not going to pull the fifties married couple different bed shit
that was only in movies
if youre married, I think youre allowed to
I know. I was just pointing out an example
Ignoring the religious aspect, this article points out some detrimental statistics concerning cohabitation. https://www.google.com/amp/s/mylordandmyblog.wordpress.com/2009/02/24/seven-reasons-why-living-together-before-marriage-is-not-a-good-idea/amp/
ok thanks
@SamanthaM All of the things he mentions are correlations but I see no proof that living together causes those problems. People who live together do so for many reasons. Some have a more liberal attitude regarding relationships and are therefore more likely to divorce. But that doesn't mean living together causes divorce. Or any of the other problems like violence or alcohol problems.
It's not necessarily *living together.* It's *living together before marriage.* Marriage is a a responsibility, like anything else. What the results are pointing to is that people who do not take this responsibility seriously are more likely to be irresponsible in other matters.
I was also thinking that people on the lower rungs of society are more likely to cohabitate for economic reasons
so just by shear numbers of the type of people who cohabitate first can add to those numbers
if that made sense
I agree with the general perception that, if a woman lives together with a man, doesn't marry him and then tries to continue dating she is seen as sullied, in the trad worldview at least.
@SamanthaM Exactly. That's correlation, not causality. If a responsible couple decides to live together without being married for whatever reason, they won't become more likely to have negative consequences just for that reason. The same as just because irresponsible couple gets married, doesn't mean they will stop drinking or being irresponsible.
One piece of advice gentlemen. If you break up with a girl, make her a complete stranger. No contact. Delete on line photos immediately. Delete her contact information and look forward completely. In addition once you get serious with a woman, drop all female friends. Don’t ever allow yourself to be in a room alone with another woman, even at work if you can.
^^^^
What would have happened to the couples who struggled with such problems that the article mentions if they got married and then lived together?
you have to work them out because you have a preexisting bilateral commitment to do so
I wonder why the mod had to issue that announcement. Was there a problem in the chat?
@Deleted User I learned that lesson the hard way.
@Rick there was an article about "female hypergamy" posted that I removed. I made the announcement to make sure everyone is on the same page that we are here to help IE members and not to lament the status (accurately or not) of dating today.
@ThisIsChris ha. ok. I thought it be something like that.
If there is one piece of advice that I can offer my fellow goyim it is to never marry a girl for whom you have to compromise on your principles for. That will never work. Take it from someone who is redpilled and married to someone who isn't. It's rough. It's almost as bad has having different religions.
I got so incredibly lucky. I sat down with my now fiance about the JQ and race realism and all of it and she agreed with me
@Patient Zero What lesson did you learn?
To forget a girl when she ghosts you.
Never go back.
If it didn't work the first time, their is a reason for that.