I have an interviewee from Columbia, SC. There isn't large membership in that state so I figure I'll send him to you, if you think that is something you can facilitate.

Are you able to make that happen, or know somebody in a more appropriate location who can vet him?

Yes, we can do it. I'm in Charlotte and the first SC guy is close by. We can do it with at least the two of us.

BTW, we just got another interview file for Greensville, SC. If both interviewees work out - we'll have 3 in SC

Excellent, sending his record now

Interviewee-746808
34/SC/Columbia
12/09/21
Conductor: Tyler SD
Notetaker: Jason NY

Accepted

Test Q: How long ago did you send in your application? 3 days ago.

-- Applicant Information --

Personal Transportation: Yes

Permanent Resident: Yes

Political Ideology: Nationalist. Been following the "white nationalist or reactionary space" for a few years now. He became disillusioned with the government and politics. He is an Iraq veteran. Govt is hostile to his family and community.

Drug Abuse: No

Religion: Orthodox Christian, no issues w/ other religions

Why Join: Our recent demonstrations in Philadelphia and D.C. gave him the impression that there's a lot of energy in our movement. Has known about us for over a year but started looking into us more closely after philly. Listened to interviews with Thomas.

Skills: Tech skills which he used as a member of Identity Europa, software developer, software deployment, devops. Is active in the other organizations he's apart of (non-political.) Some medical experience but no up-to-date qualifications.

Read Manifesto: Yes. Read it first 6 months ago, then read it again once he saw news of our D.C. demo. He likes it. The parts about fraternity and rebuilding America stood out to him. "Cliff appearing as a horizon"

-- In-depth Questions --

Q1: Never interviewed before

Q2: Was in the U.S. marines for "just under a decade", served 2 tours in Iraq. Discharged 7 years ago. No other govt employment.

Q3: No restricting ailments.

Q4: He became interested in politics during his time in the military. He was not particularly political until 2016 when he became involved in alt-right / trump politics. He attended Unite the Right. In late 2017 he joined Identity Europa, he feels that Patrick Casey and other IE leadership drove the organization into the ground. He was demoralized after cville and wasn't interested in joining any groups until he found us.

Q5: He found our organization in 2020 but did not look closely at it. Our Philadelphia demonstration piqued his interest further, and our recent D.C. demonstration pushed him over the edge to joining. He felt that we were organized and safe enough to join despite his hesitations since Charlottesville.

Q6: Opposed to Civic Nationalism. CivNats refuse to consider identitarian issues as valid and it affects their worldview, their worldview is invalid because they don't consider race. Migratory foreigners cannot become American regardless of conditioning. There is an ethnic component to being an American because the founding fathers intended for America to be a state for Europeans. It is evident in the writing of the founders that they were not civnats.

Q7: Family has been in America for at least 4 generations. They came from Ireland and arrived in NYC for work in the early 1800s. Not certain how long his mother's side has been in America but he estimated 3-4 generations, they come from Sweden. Describes self ethnically as "White American".

Q8: He was a member of Identity Europa where he went by "Phillip Smith" or "Phil SC". He attended Richard Spencer's speech at Auburn university in spring of 2017. He went to a free speech rally in July of 2017 where civnats and alt-right had a dispute. He met Patrick Casey for the first time at the free speech rally, Casey asked him to consider joining IE. In August he attended the Unite the Right rally in 2017. Shortly after UTR he joined IE. He did a couple of banner drops in D.C. and attended a demonstration at the South African embassy in D.C. with IE. Has never been doxxed.

Q9: The use of violence is justified in defense of life. Also justified in defense of your home in limited circumstances. Anything beyond that is only justified when "civil order has completely broken down." Under normal circumstances, violence is only justified when defending from a serious attack. We are not currently in a situation that would require violence. Understands and agrees to violence statement.

Q10: Has not been involved in a physical confrontation since high school. He was shot at in the military, though.

Q11: Works full time. Has some family commitments but he is generally flexible. Estimates he is free about 20 hours per week. Schedule would allow for weekly meetings provided it is not during work hours.

Q12: The biggest threat to America right now is "the general apathy of people" and a culture that pushes people towards apathy. Entertainment encourages apathy.

Q13: Mostly gets his information from news outlets similar to RT, sometimes listens to TRS podcasts. On telegram he follows Eric Striker, Mike Peinovich, Russia Today, Glen Greenwald.

Q14: If he had to choose a label he would pick "Nationalist." He will also use White Nationalist sometimes depending on who he's talking to. Personal experiences that influenced his beliefs were his experiences in highschool. He felt that there was a lot of anti-White messaging in his classes and in his workplace. Later he became disillusioned with the system because of his experiences in the Iraq war. He homeschools his children because he feels that the culture in the school system is hostile to them on the basis of race.

Q15: No religious and political conflict.

Q16: Book that has been influential on him are Mein Kampf. Going into Mein Kampf he expected the book to talk about genocidal fantasies and race hatred, he found that it was actually intelligent and gave him an insight into Adolf Hitler's life and the foundations of the National Socialist worldview. Chapter 2 of the book was particularly influential because he identified with a lot of Hitler's revelations on class and race.

Q17: Current level of physical fitness is average. He is not out of shape but he was in better shape when he was in the military. He has a physical job, works with his hands on his property often, jogs often. 5'6" 160lbs. No MMA experience.

Q18: The ideal family structure is a nuclear family with extended family living in the area. Modern family has too much divorce, same sex couples, modern culture is anti-family. Personal upbringing was average, felt that his family was somewhat of a failure.

Q19: American historical figure who he most admires is Thomas Jefferson.

Q20: Figure who he despises is harry Truman because he created many agencies and government programs that he feels are harmful.

Q21: The nationalist movement has been disorganized, had too much infighting. His previous organization fell apart due to bad opsec, disorganization and infighting. Believes the Nationalist movement is moving in a positive direction. "I'm optimistic in a way I wasn't 2 years ago." Our organization is coherent and we don't start fights with other Nationalists. We also have "a focus on quality and clarity of messaging and goal." PF is the most visible, impressive and professional Nationalist group that he's ever seen.

Q22: His goals for the future are to raise his children who will soon be teenagers. He also wants to become more involved in the Nationalist movement. He wants to increase his level of financial independence; to buy more freedom to pursue the causes he believes in.

Did you receive a message from Vincent TX last night about a NC member?

Has there ever been a "Logan NC" ?

Yeah, talking to Thomas about it.

Got it