Message from Matt ✠ in tradworker #tradworker


2017-06-12 00:42:11 UTC  

ok thx

2017-06-12 00:43:30 UTC  

I think whether a person calls himself a Fascist or National Socialist is a matter of preference--for Americans, anyway. I think we have the same goals and ideology, up until it gets into the deeper side of spirituality. That's speaking as an American in 2017.

2017-06-12 00:44:09 UTC  

TL;DR can't find Mussolini's essay on Nietzsche's Übermensch but Mussolini blamed jews for destroying Roman Empire in like 1905

2017-06-12 00:45:06 UTC  

"If Petrograd (Pietrograd) does not yet fall, if [General] Denikin is not moving forward, then this is what the great Jewish bankers of London and New York have decreed. These bankers are bound by ties of blood to those Jews who in Moscow as in Budapest are taking their revenge on the Aryan race that has condemned them to dispersion for so many centuries. In Russia, 80 percent of the managers of the Soviets are Jews, in Budapest 17 out of 22 people's commissars are Jews. Might it not be that bolshevism is the vendetta of Judaism against Christianity?? It is certainly worth pondering. It is entirely possible that bolshevism will drown in the blood of a pogrom of catastrophic proportions. World finance is in the hands of the Jews. Whoever owns the strongboxes of the peoples is in control of their political systems. Behind the puppets (making peace) in Paris, there are the Rothschilds, the Warburgs, the Schiffs, the Guggenheims who are of the same blood who are conquering Petrograd and Budapest. Race does not betray race....Bolshevism is a defense of the international plutocracy. This is the basic truth of the matter. The international plutocracy dominated and controlled by Jews has a supreme interest in all of Russian life accelerating its process of disintegration to the point of paroxysm. A Russia that is paralyzed, disorganized, starved, will be a place where tomorrow the bourgeoisie, yes the bourgeoisie, o proletarians will celebrate its spectacular feast of plenty."

2017-06-12 00:45:12 UTC  

Il Popolo d'Italia, June 1919

2017-06-12 00:45:31 UTC  

Where does this impression of Mussolini as a liberal kikelover come from? Man.

2017-06-12 00:45:45 UTC  

Well, I stand happily corrected.

2017-06-12 00:45:57 UTC  

I mean, why'd you think that in the first place? I'm not shitting on you.

2017-06-12 00:46:06 UTC  

But, he's fascist dude, cumon lol.

2017-06-12 00:46:37 UTC  

That was the defining difference between the two that I'd always heard/read.

2017-06-12 00:46:46 UTC  

From whom?

2017-06-12 00:46:50 UTC  

Many different places.

2017-06-12 00:47:00 UTC  

Tell them they're wrong.

2017-06-12 00:47:08 UTC  

I will now.

2017-06-12 00:47:18 UTC  

It just seems like a really bizarre idea.

2017-06-12 00:47:58 UTC  

"Mussolini loved the jews...just deported them doe X D"

2017-06-12 00:48:18 UTC  

Well, I think a lot of present day fascists like the idea that they are not racists.

2017-06-12 00:48:28 UTC  

I think you're talking about liberals.

2017-06-12 00:48:41 UTC  

So they say things like that to help themselves sleep at night and win arguments.

2017-06-12 00:48:55 UTC  

I think present day "Nationalist" who use fascist imagery might not be racialists.

2017-06-12 00:48:59 UTC  

The mythical anti-fascist fascists?

2017-06-12 00:49:01 UTC  

You can't mix truth with lies, you don't get closer to truth, just muddle up the facts.

2017-06-12 00:49:09 UTC  

I agree

2017-06-12 00:49:30 UTC  

Yeah I'll stick with National Socialist, superior purity-spiraling label

2017-06-12 00:49:38 UTC  

I think you're right @dd✳555

2017-06-12 00:50:30 UTC  

Just to whore Ropeculture a bit more for DD http://ropeculture.org/2016/03/03/demanders/

2017-06-12 00:50:37 UTC  

"Compromise is where the Truth goes to Die. One doesn’t argue that 2+2=4 with someone who thinks that it’s 7 and then compromises with them that 2+2=5. Thus alliances likewise don’t work, as they are built on the same method of compromising on your ideals, on your principles, on that vision in favor of quantity.

Mein Kampf, Volume II, Chapter 8: The Strong Man is Mightiest When Alone:

“Above all, the new race-based state will never be created by the compromising indecisiveness of a racialist worker-coalition, but only by the iron will of a single movement that has fought its way through all that opposed it.“"

2017-06-12 00:51:07 UTC  

I love that quote

2017-06-12 00:51:53 UTC  

How would you describe VA ideologically Tedium?

2017-06-12 00:53:24 UTC  

American Fascist

2017-06-12 00:53:35 UTC  

You mean pro-nigger pro-jew liberal fascist?

2017-06-12 00:53:48 UTC  

No, it's white nationalist

2017-06-12 00:54:35 UTC  

🤔 fascist but not racist, colorblind but pro-white?

2017-06-12 00:54:48 UTC  

?

2017-06-12 00:55:09 UTC  

Okay, just basic WN, got it.

2017-06-12 00:55:10 UTC  

I remember meeting a couple of them at Pikeville, seemed like good guys

2017-06-12 00:55:18 UTC  

Yeah I'm not shitting on anyone.

2017-06-12 00:55:29 UTC  

But.

2017-06-12 00:55:38 UTC  

Yeah I actually am shitting on the concept of colorblind fascism.

2017-06-12 00:55:42 UTC  

If you're not one good for you.

2017-06-12 00:55:53 UTC  

We aren't colorblind