Message by John Mosby, in tradworker, #tradworker

John Mosby 2017-11-01 21:09:32

Homosexuality needs to be treated as a mental and Spiritual disease. It is pervasive and will only grow, if ignored (as history has shown). It must be denounced across the board. In Hierarchical society, there is no such thing as a welcomed closet queer. They were treated as a disease...if attempts of curing said disease didn't work, then they destroyed said disease.

http://www.traditioninaction.org/religious/n133_Sodomy_9.htm

Jones Malone 2017-11-01 21:10:16

What im saying is a fag should fall in the pack. It should be so closeted that bystanders dont even know its closeted

Jones Malone 2017-11-01 21:10:50

If you struggle with it, its your personal cross that is between you and God. Not for society to rewrite its rules around it

Mr. Hughes 2017-11-01 21:11:09

i agree

John Mosby 2017-11-01 21:14:29

"No sin has greater power over the soul than the one of cursed sodomy, which was always detested by all those who lived according to God's law. ...

Such passion for untenable practices borders on madness. This vice disturbs the intellect, unbalances an elevated and generous state of soul, drags lofty thoughts down to base ones, makes men pusillanimous and irascible, obstinate and hardened, servilely soft and incapable of anything.

Furthermore, the will, agitated by the insatiable drive for pleasure, no longer follows reason but rather the tumult of the passions. ...

One who lives practicing the vice of sodomy will suffer more pain in Hell than anyone else, because this the worst sin that exist." -
St. Bernardine of Siena

John Mosby 2017-11-01 21:16:10

@Jones Malone

We are not individualistic egalitarians. We believe in Hierarchy and community. It is absolutely necessary for the community to correct the sins of the individual.

John Mosby 2017-11-01 21:16:49

An individual's sin becomes that of the community, if the community fails to stem it.

There are tons of Saints who say this.

Jones Malone 2017-11-01 21:20:15

And thats a fair assesment that I agree with. But if someone were to never allude to being a fag or to make it clear, there is never the sin, or at least a visible sin for the community to correct

Jones Malone 2017-11-01 21:21:15

Obviously if they act on the sin, or bring it into public eye that changes the dynamic and must be stopped

Hadrian 2017-11-01 21:23:35

My expectation for them is like I expect of drug addicts. Don't fucking be proud of it, get help and keep your urges hidden

Hadrian 2017-11-01 21:23:58

There was a time when they did keep it hidden, and took wives and fathered white children

John Mosby 2017-11-01 21:26:41

@Jones Malone

True. I should have iterated that I am not saying we should destroy someone for simply struggling with the Passion of homosexuality. One of my favorite modern Theologians was a former queer, who went into Monasticism to overcome said sin. All I am saying is that a lot of people I know are like : "whatever a man does in his bedroom is between him and God". This line of thinking is a product of modernism and our perverted individualistic mindset. A community must uphold Christian morals and Law; St John makes this very clear:

https://ssjgblog.wordpress.com/2017/02/04/orthodox-christian-response-to-blasphemy/

Now that I am looking over your other comments, I see that you aren't really taking the individualist stance, but simply saying queers need to remain beyond hidden. I can see said logic, although I am of the opinion that said queers need to come out and recognize that their sin is a sickness, and seek help for it (otherwise it will only fester and spread).

John Mosby 2017-11-01 21:32:52

Saying queers need to remain hidden vs seeking help, is like saying a leper needs to hide his sores from everyone and pretend to be healthy. If a leper refuses treatment, then his disease will only spread to the community. The same applies to queers, imo.

Hadrian 2017-11-01 21:33:28

you can stay hidden and seek help. Doctors have confidentiality

John Mosby 2017-11-01 21:34:46

This is true.

Priests have the same level of confidentiality, if not more. So long as homos are seeking "treatment", and not acting on their sin, then I am fine with them remaining in our socierty.

Hadrian 2017-11-01 21:34:58

Exactly

Fevs 2017-11-01 21:35:19

We should be working towards a cure for it for those seeking treatment in our ethnostate

John Mosby 2017-11-01 21:36:07

Christ and the Intercessions of the Saints have been the Traditional treatment.

Monasticism was heavily used on homos, too.

HueTheHand 2017-11-01 21:36:15

Some people say it has something to do with all the soy people are using and the estrogen in a lot of consumer products

Hadrian 2017-11-01 21:36:23

Yes we should. The existing options aren't great. The only reason some states are able to ban conversion therapy is because the studies show that the current form usually doesn't work

John Mosby 2017-11-01 21:36:32

Soy definitely lowers your testosterone.

Fevs 2017-11-01 21:36:37

^

Fevs 2017-11-01 21:37:00

I've seen reports that even large amounts of dairy can give your body a large amount of estrogen though

Fevs 2017-11-01 21:37:12

Which sucks because milk is life

Hadrian 2017-11-01 21:37:13

so does beer

John Mosby 2017-11-01 21:37:40

NOOOOOOOO. Don't black-pill me on beer and dairy.

Hadrian 2017-11-01 21:37:43

#whiskymasterrace

HueTheHand 2017-11-01 21:37:52

In traditional European diet they stop drinking milk after child hood and only have cheeses

Fevs 2017-11-01 21:37:54

I'm destined to be a low T soyboy

Fevs 2017-11-01 21:38:01

I must end myself for the good of eugenics

Mr. Hughes 2017-11-01 21:38:44

i grow soybeans for soyboys

HueTheHand 2017-11-01 21:39:06

I have been thinking to trying to go to a Nordic or Traditional Meditation diet

Hadrian 2017-11-01 21:39:17

muh edamame though

John Mosby 2017-11-01 21:39:56

Mediterranean diet is one of the best.

So is the traditional Japanese diet.

John Mosby 2017-11-01 21:44:02

I try to consume olive oil on a daily basis.

It's also really good to consume a small amount of apple cider vinegar daily, as well.

Fevs 2017-11-01 21:44:49

Isn't that appropriating nonwhite culture though

Fevs 2017-11-01 21:45:18

Whites are obviously superior to mediterraneans, we must have more healthy diets

Mr. Hughes 2017-11-01 21:45:56

usually I just eat whatever Im craving

John Mosby 2017-11-01 21:46:04

You consider "whites" and Mediterraneans to be different?

John Mosby 2017-11-01 21:46:39

I'd say 80-90% of people on here have Mediterranean heritage...I know I do.