even though murder is seen as forbidden in literally every society

even the most primitive societies

it kinda is about controlling the wammen

it hinges on wheather or not the fetus is a person and therefor has nothing to fucking do with women or their probably 2/10 bodies

how marxist you have to be to think about such a thing in power dynamics terms lol

it's controlling women's bodies because it's literally inside their body

if the state is stepping in telling them what to do with their bodies

i think casual abortion is very wrong

but u cant outlaw people being immoral

@Polekov and most who do it are severely punished for doing it... almost as if everyone else has the conscious to not let a terrible deed go unpunished.

that never works

It applies to women because women are the only ones that can carry a fetus

Its not about women its about the fetus

Which only women can have

For now anyway

i mean the guy has a part in conceiving of a fetus lol

Again, by the same logic, outlawing murder is unnecessary because “it never works.”

i believe in someone's right over personal sovereignty as long as theyre not aborting someone else's body then its fine

I agree with boots argument there

Was going to say the same thing earlier

i would recommend you not to get tattoos, but i dont have the right to force you to do what i want

yep

a fetus is incapable of meaningful life until it's outside the womb

so

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who cares

The point of laws is to not prevent something, but to punish those who violate the act in the first place so when a crime is committed, proper procedures will be followed when dealing with the case.

it sucks coz they wont take your blood or organs if youve got tattoos

It isn't always though

Do you expect a one-year-old to order pizza?

It can't fend for itself as a toddler either.

And these people want abortions at the 6 month mark and beyond

ordering pizza is not a meaningful life

Babies need constant attention for years.

fending for itself is not the same as havbing a meaningful life

Maybe not you I'm not singleing anyone out

Babies can’t burp on their own.

Yeah and

@Samaritan can u play stellaris or u still at work

They literally cannot do anything without continual supervision.

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