Message from @Blebleh
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Yup
>not having independent means
W A G E C U C K
Then?
Do you think that all workers can have them?
That's distributism, an utopic doctrine
No.
It's a sort of achievement for the exceptional
How is exploiting being exceptional?
capitalism is always distorted
Many must be exploited for the exploiter to profit.
Does this not make him exceptional?
yes, capitalists are a minority
No. Capitalists are anyone who believes in economic value.
Only a capitalist accepts local currency
The only non capitalists use other systems exclusively.
no, capitalists are people who have other people working for them
and they profit from them
Anyone who buys or sells has people working for them
We are a complicated planet wide telephathic hyper being
The taxonomy is far too complex to say anyone is a non-capitalist
Did you make shoe?
Did you make materials to make shoe?
Being capitalist or not doesn't depend on the belief of economic value
It precisely does.
I didn't make the shoe, I bought it before
It is an indication of belief in a value system and identity as such
So you didn't do shit
You took something someone else did, transferred value, then transferred that object for value
In that case I didn't have workers working for me
I just bought a shoe with my money
You have the manufacturer of that shoe working for you
and then sold it
no
I'm putting a case in which I'm no capitalist
I just buy from a shop and sell the shoe
with no people working for me
I'm just trading
now, if I had an enterprise and I had workers doing the shoes; I'd profit and pay the workers a wage
in that case I'd be a capitalist