Message from @Chalin
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Also, it's not explicitly said that the serpent in the Garden of Eden was actually the devil
Not in the Bible, at least
Oh, we believe it was
The New International Version is also a common one
Though I'd have to recheck
It's basically assumed that the serpent is the devil
Who else would be leading God's creations astray
How could the devil have been in heaven
A preacher will tell you that it's pretty obvious that the serpent was the devil
You'd find that a lot of what is taught by Christian theologians is based upon assumptions and inferences made about the text, rather than litteral translation
Doesn't that increase inacurracy though?
That's a big issue, yes
It's one of the reasons why I do not believe in the Bible
Well
I agree with your standpoint in sticking to morals
Most modern Christians do not take the old testament as fact
Too much of it contradicts known science and history, and there's just too many contradictions
The new testament is less inconsistent, and better follows the beliefs of modern Christianity
There's some stuff that breaks science, like Jesus turning water into wine, but it's easier to accept that Jesus can defy the laws of creation from time to time than it is to accept the Creationist belief of how the universe was created based upon the litteral interpretation of genesis
That's a lot of contradictions. You know if the bible was never changed from how it was originally revealed, there would have been no need for the Quran, by Muslim beliefs at least
I believe his ability to turn water into wine was *supposed* to contradict science, to prove him
Along with his other abilities
Yeah, as I said
If Jesus was God on Earth, or even a prophet who acted on behalf of God, of course he'd be able to violate natural law to prove his divine nature
I know a creationist who believes the Earth was formed 5000 years ago. But he also has a masters degree in environmental sciences and he's seen trees that are 6000 years old. I have no comment to that
Yeah
top kek
It sounds like you were going to add a "but"
A "but" to what?
Jesus:
"I'm gonna prove my divinity by doing impossible stuff"
*does impossible stuff*
I don't believe Jesus and the miracles, but it isn't remotely absurd for someone who does believe in Jesus's divinity to believe that he did those things
Oh, I get it
It's like believing in Zeus, and then believing that Zeus did actually kill people with lightning
Yeahhh
Hahaha
If you believe in the strange, it's not surprising that the strange would do something strange
Exactly
Yeahh I get that