Involuntary redistribution of wealth is Socialism

Shut up you filthy commie

@εïз irma εïз look higher

Socialism is the proletariat owning the means of production, and more specifically in an orthodox Marxian sense the stage where the proletariat has their MOP owned on behalf of the dictatorship of the proletariat.

Because I made my argument here: Social programs take the capital (means of production) from the wealthy and redistribute it to the poor

Hurr Durr they disagreed on yes or no who gives a shit the majority of people see it as Socialism

Hurr Durr that's not real Socialism

???? You said the same thing.

Anon, I have some very bad news for you. Socialism isn't whatever contrived definition Dennis Prager gave you in a five minute YouTube ad meant to slander people he disagrees with. 😢

Commie

Socialism is a coherent political theory.

I'm a fascist, I just understand words better than you do.

Socialism is not a political theory

@εïз irma εïз you are an idiot. I specifically said the redistribution of means of production.

Socialism is gay

Except that's exactly what it is.

Campodin, you are confusing means of production with fruits of labor.

@campodin excuse zexy, he's a special breed of commie

The worker doesn't own the means of production in social programs nor is the means of production "redistributed". What the fuck does this even mean?

@Doctor Anon I've noticed

socialism is definitely a political

also ginasfs

Wrong

It's gay

Campodin cannot even explain the basic ideas he's attempting to articulate, he would rather call me an idiot.

How is the MOP redistributed in social programs?

it's not great but it's not gay

@εïз irma εïз capital is the means of production. If you are taking it from one person and giving it to another it is being redistributed

says the commie who can't formulate a formidible counter argument and instead goes on the offensive

No, that's fruits of labor.

🤦

Look at the word. Means. Of. Production.

Basic example is a factory.

The capitalist controls the factory, not the worker.

The fruits of labor come from the factory.

Means of production =/= Capital

@εïз irma εïз how do they get the factory? First by having capitol

ty @εïз irma εïз

And?