Message from IUisbae in The Right Server #chat

2018-10-03 00:21:32 UTC  

We went from Islamic Golden Age, to Empires like Persia, to Byzantium, to a stable subcontinent, to a theorcratic state, to radicalist governments, to the war-torn shitholes of today

2018-10-03 00:22:11 UTC  

someone redpill me on colonization

2018-10-03 00:22:18 UTC  

Milton Friedman told me it was net positive on the colonized countries

2018-10-03 00:22:26 UTC  

brainlets like Chomsky said that's the only reason America got rich

2018-10-03 00:22:30 UTC  

i wouldn't be surpised if it was a net positive

2018-10-03 00:22:36 UTC  


2018-10-03 00:22:55 UTC  

White countries are rich because of war

2018-10-03 00:22:58 UTC  


2018-10-03 00:23:12 UTC  

white countries are rich because they fought each other for years

2018-10-03 00:23:18 UTC  

and that sparks innovation

2018-10-03 00:23:30 UTC  

im not saying anything about the morality of war

2018-10-03 00:23:35 UTC  

im saying that it sparks innovation

2018-10-03 00:23:37 UTC  

Asian countries have been at war for millenniums

2018-10-03 00:23:45 UTC  

not as much as europe

2018-10-03 00:23:46 UTC  

African countries have been warring forever

2018-10-03 00:23:52 UTC  

especially since china was united for a long time

2018-10-03 00:23:56 UTC  

Anyone listen to grant macdonald

2018-10-03 00:24:09 UTC  

trust me, europe has had a lot more wars with each other

2018-10-03 00:24:13 UTC  

than china has had with its nation states

2018-10-03 00:24:26 UTC  

thats why china was more develpoed than europe 2000-3000 years ago

2018-10-03 00:24:30 UTC  

because they fought more

2018-10-03 00:24:43 UTC  

Qing China #1

2018-10-03 00:24:43 UTC  

Monarchy china lasted

2018-10-03 00:24:46 UTC  

a looooong time

2018-10-03 00:24:50 UTC  

Qing China was #1

2018-10-03 00:24:55 UTC  

because that time was the bloodiest time for china

2018-10-03 00:24:56 UTC

2018-10-03 00:24:58 UTC  


2018-10-03 00:24:58 UTC  

Qing > All

2018-10-03 00:25:08 UTC  

Qing was very developed because they fought a shit ton

2018-10-03 00:25:21 UTC  

Mandate of heaven anyone

2018-10-03 00:25:40 UTC  

we kinda ended up fucking up qing with all that opium though

2018-10-03 00:25:41 UTC  

imo @IUisbae's position can be sumarized as this: war could be an important condition for technical development, but is not a sufficient condition

2018-10-03 00:25:52 UTC  

yes that is my position

2018-10-03 00:25:55 UTC  

IQ could matter

2018-10-03 00:25:59 UTC  

but war is an important catalyst

2018-10-03 00:26:01 UTC  

for innovation

2018-10-03 00:26:09 UTC  

especially back then

2018-10-03 00:26:18 UTC  

there is very little need for innovation unless there is war

2018-10-03 00:26:21 UTC  

Look at where we went technologically between the first world war and today