It's a nonsense argument no matter how to slice it, you can disagree with the opinions presented to you by people, but you shouldn't dismiss them because they're not sophisticated enough for you @Chlodovech

@Dennafen Whoa your Cathy Newman impression is spot on!

@Chlodovech "All these rant channels with animal personas or statues with sunglasses, man, theyre so pretentious lol" If that's dismissive I don't what is.

They're not journalists they're guys with opinions. their words is not any more valid as the people you know RL or anyone that follows the news secondhand

But yea it is dismissive, whats ze problem?

You said I was miss representing you with my "Cathy Newman" impression. When I didn't.

I didnt say opinions need degrees or that ''people cant be on videos'', they can do whatever they want, I only said their opinions arent particularly valid. Not any more valid than say your dad when he's commenting on something he reads in the newspaper.

You said Tim's isn't much different but thats not true since he actually goes out of his way to the source of the news and seeks out multiple perspectives and all that jazz

Okay their opinions aren't valid as opposed to what?

As I said, as opposed to someone that is making news content that is actual journalism

What would make their opinions valid. You're comparing apples and oranges when you say that.

An opinion is an opinion. I am not making a judgement on when an opinion is valid or not

I don't think this talk is going anywhere lol

You singled out these youtubers as having opinions that "aren't particularly valid" that seems to imply that some opinions are more valid. So who can have a valid opinion is it just you?

Okay I just read back and nowhere did I say anything about some opinions being more valid than other opinions. More the contrary that their opinions are equal to the opinion of basically anyone else.

I dont give a shit about opinions I want reporting

That's why I follow Tim Pool and not armchair commentators

the majority of what tim does anymore is sit in his chair and talk about other peoples articles you know that right?

the majority of all news since the construction of news media companys has been someone else dressing up the reporting of another person in a way that best fits their narritive, EVEN if that narritive is to present the truth best possible in a way that is most easly digested, though rarely ever that noble. the invention of the television actually got us closer to on the ground reporting and witnessing real events than before that even though news existed in some form, centurys before tv or radio. some anime or dog profile picture with a human void talking about something that in itself is probably about someones oppinion in the first place is simply radio with nice images, no more no less real than you get elsewhere.

ultimately if you want the truth, no one can do more work for you than yourself even about a topic on the other side of the world, because youll never know more than what you perceive and rationalize, so the perceptions of others and rationality of others will only ever be a tiny fraction of influince on what you are truly capible of knowing

That's not a bad sentiment @Arch-Fiend, we are ultimately the arbiters of what is or isn't true for ourselves.

ultimately even then were flawed, so really i dont worry to much about what the truth is, 99% of us are just going to assume the truth is what we think anyway

im going to assume the truth, and when i have more evidence ill assume again and perhaps contradict my former self

@Arch-Fiend Mate what is your gripe. Why do y'all have to get so argumentative all I said is that I don't like smug armchair commentators and that Tim isn't one since he isn't being snarky, isn't being condescending and cuts right to the point. Tries to be objective, etc. You have to see the distinction I am making. How much more clear do I have to make it before you understand? He is more like Phillip De Franco in this way than, say, Paul Joseph Watson, Sargon, etc.

@Chlodovech You're acting like a smug armchair commenter while decrying smug armchair commenters.

Well that's just, like, yer opinion, mate.

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I didn't do shit lol I don't know what I did even wrong.

I said something, you got argumentative over nothing.

I said something and you got defensive over nothing.

I don't think anyone is angry with you.

Because you misconstrued what I said.

And then seem to condemn me for some perceived mistake I made.

You presented your point badly then.

Alright.

I guess that's settled than. Can we move on?

I presented my point badly. But now all is good. No more need to drag this out lol

So we agree then?

That you misunderstood me because I didn't elaborate well enough.

Sure.

Then why dismiss some peoples opinions over others?