Messsage from Kike of Kaifeng in Anticom #general


Platz 2017-04-13 16:49:39  

You might not be, but I haven't seen very intelligent arguments from anyone proclaiming themselves to be a socialist

Kike of Kaifeng 2017-04-13 16:49:46  

but, as far as Stalin stuff goes, I’m 4PT about it

Kike of Kaifeng 2017-04-13 16:50:00  

usually not

Kike of Kaifeng 2017-04-13 16:50:18  

(though libertarians are generally not better)

Lord Efo 2017-04-13 16:50:44  

WHAT DID YOU SAY ABOUT LIBERTARIANS

Kike of Kaifeng 2017-04-13 16:50:47  

😛

Platz 2017-04-13 16:50:49  

Yeah I guess you could pull the "it's not real libertarianism" thing out

Platz 2017-04-13 16:50:58  

As a counterpart to "it's not real socialism"

Kike of Kaifeng 2017-04-13 16:51:06  

yeah, the no-true-Scotsman args have to be substantiated at least

Kike of Kaifeng 2017-04-13 16:51:24  

otherwise, moving the goalposts like that is faggy

Kike of Kaifeng 2017-04-13 16:51:34  

(or Pharisaic)

Kike of Kaifeng 2017-04-13 16:51:48  

(but I repeat myself)

Kike of Kaifeng 2017-04-13 16:52:45  

NSDAP, though, didn’t use the word *socialist* for nothing

Kike of Kaifeng 2017-04-13 16:53:08  

National Socialism is not simply national capitalism

Kike of Kaifeng 2017-04-13 16:53:24  

though I do think it didn’t go far enough

Kike of Kaifeng 2017-04-13 16:53:43  

so it failed to whack exploiters who were not Jewish

Kike of Kaifeng 2017-04-13 16:53:58  

failed to catch many of the biggest Jews who did deserve to die

Kike of Kaifeng 2017-04-13 16:54:06  

and killed some Jews who really posed no threat

Platz 2017-04-13 16:54:12  

I don't think you're gonna find a lot of people here who support government control in our private lives

Lord Efo 2017-04-13 16:54:18  

Post your political compass

Kike of Kaifeng 2017-04-13 16:54:32  

haha, my political compass is red zone

Lord Efo 2017-04-13 16:55:01  

Oh god

Kike of Kaifeng 2017-04-13 16:55:03  

at base, I’m pretty Confucian

Kike of Kaifeng 2017-04-13 16:55:31  

but for the nation to actually secure itself against foreign interference

Platz 2017-04-13 16:55:45  

If you're not screaming about revolution and you don't have hammer and sickles in your name, I don't really mind

Kike of Kaifeng 2017-04-13 16:55:52  

I do think a lot of ‘left’-sounding stuff has to be done

Platz 2017-04-13 16:55:58  

I probably don't agree with you but I don't mind you

Kike of Kaifeng 2017-04-13 16:56:06  

revolution sometimes is necesssary, sometimes not

Kike of Kaifeng 2017-04-13 16:56:11  

depends on the circumstances

Hernán Cortés 2017-04-13 16:56:41  

This conversation is all over the place

Kike of Kaifeng 2017-04-13 16:57:08  

@Platz is this too hammer-and-sickle for you? https://twitter.com/LueYee/status/774495223963611136

Kike of Kaifeng 2017-04-13 16:57:33  

sorry, @Hernán Cortés, I contain multitudes

Hernán Cortés 2017-04-13 16:57:47  

Would you agree or disagree that hierarchy is essential to civilization?

Platz 2017-04-13 16:57:49  

Personally I support your freedom to converse in a reasonable manner here, but I don't represent the people in charge

Kike of Kaifeng 2017-04-13 16:57:53  

of c we need hierarchy

Kike of Kaifeng 2017-04-13 16:58:11  

I even think China needs emperors back, but in a diff. way

Kike of Kaifeng 2017-04-13 16:58:49  

I also think that’s compatible with a lowercase national socialism

DeusVolt 2017-04-13 16:59:07  

Largest Non-Nuke bomb is US arsenal.

Kike of Kaifeng 2017-04-13 16:59:17  

without some of the stupid stuff Marx said

Hernán Cortés 2017-04-13 16:59:31  

Would you agree or disagree that capitalism is the best possible system we can currently implement, not because it aims to maximize equality, but because it aims to maximize efficiency?

Kike of Kaifeng 2017-04-13 17:00:32  

I disagree with the assertion that capitalism is the most efficient for attaining a functioning (and therefore just and secure) commonwealth