Message from @Tohob

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2018-07-07 03:33:49 UTC  

they have rampant poverty issues that we could help

2018-07-07 03:34:14 UTC  

Do they have access to education?

2018-07-07 03:34:46 UTC  

i don't think we will ever get to a point where they become independent nations. maybe states but that'd have to be negotiated with the current states they reside in

2018-07-07 03:34:49 UTC  

yea

2018-07-07 03:35:07 UTC  

They are all citizens

2018-07-07 03:35:09 UTC  

iirc

2018-07-07 03:35:20 UTC  

so they have all the same benefits

2018-07-07 03:35:28 UTC  

I personally think that if the have access to education they also have the choice to persue better and other lives

2018-07-07 03:35:30 UTC  

they just get ignored

2018-07-07 03:35:51 UTC  

therefor you have no obligation to aid them specifically before other groups/individuals

2018-07-07 03:35:58 UTC  

those that dont live on reservations tend to do fine

2018-07-07 03:36:16 UTC  

those that do either live in poverty or go into the stereotypical casino jobs

2018-07-07 03:36:52 UTC  

I will need to talk to a friend of mine who knows this stuff more

2018-07-07 03:36:52 UTC  

Noticed when i was vissiting the US, almost only natives employed at the casinos outside of vegas

2018-07-07 03:37:08 UTC  

they are part of a tribe and advocate for aid essentially

2018-07-07 03:37:23 UTC  

yea thats the trend

2018-07-07 03:37:33 UTC  

and they tend to be those living on the reservations

2018-07-07 03:37:41 UTC  

cause otherwise its poverty

2018-07-07 03:37:56 UTC  

cause they dont have good options on reservation

2018-07-07 03:38:16 UTC  

again i dont have all the details so im really basing this on heresay

2018-07-07 03:38:31 UTC  

iirc casinos are illegal but native tribes get special privaleges

2018-07-07 03:38:32 UTC  

and vague knowledge

2018-07-07 03:38:43 UTC  

depends on the state

2018-07-07 03:38:54 UTC  

and yea they get a pass i think

2018-07-07 03:39:12 UTC  

so long as they are on reservation or in states where its legal

2018-07-07 03:39:13 UTC  

Can't know everything..
IƤve heard about those weird casino laws before

2018-07-07 03:40:59 UTC  

i guess it has its reasons but i'm no fan of group specific laws

2018-07-07 03:41:29 UTC  

if anything in this case its kind of to pay them back for conquering them

2018-07-07 03:41:30 UTC  

yeah i kinda wish we'd have just integrated them into US society instead of pushing them into reservations

2018-07-07 03:41:38 UTC  

its just poorly implemented

2018-07-07 03:42:18 UTC  

Integration is the best way of handling marginalized groups, def. agree on that!

2018-07-07 03:42:28 UTC  

We have integrated them in many ways but tbh i would have prefered theyd have become states

2018-07-07 03:42:48 UTC  

and hell maybe that cans till be made possible

2018-07-07 03:43:05 UTC  

the problem is negotiating size

2018-07-07 03:43:21 UTC  

wonder if the voters would support that

2018-07-07 03:43:31 UTC  

could be a party splitting issue?

2018-07-07 03:43:40 UTC  

and obviously the state the reservation is in would have say in said negotiations\

2018-07-07 03:44:06 UTC  

iirc its been quite a divisive topic

2018-07-07 03:44:53 UTC  

cause the reservations essentially want ALL of their previous territory back while the States that control alot of that land obviously dont want to give it away

2018-07-07 03:45:12 UTC  

My thought exactrly

2018-07-07 03:45:19 UTC  

I think there should be some sort of compromise