Message from @Vannevariable

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2018-12-29 12:56:15 UTC  

we can kind of see that right now ...

2018-12-29 13:00:13 UTC  

The buyers are as much the masters as the sellers.

2018-12-29 13:01:33 UTC  

People will only believe what they want to believe.

2018-12-29 13:03:35 UTC  

People will only believe in truth and reason to the extent that the knowledge that can be aquried can be used to satisfy their own values and achieve their own ends.

2018-12-29 13:03:59 UTC  

Reason is only a means, never an end in itself.

2018-12-29 13:04:42 UTC  

```"No thinking and no acting would be possible to man if the universe were chaotic, i.e., if there were no regularity whatever in the succession and concatenation of events. In such a world of unlimited contingency nothing could be perceived but ceaseless kaleidoscopic change. There would be no possibility for man to expect anything. All experience would be merely historical, the record of what has happened in the past. No inference from past events to what might happen in the future would be permissible. Therefore man could not act. He could at best be a passive spectator and would not be able to make any arrangements for the future, be it only for the future of the impending instant. The first and basic achievement of thinking is the awareness of constant relations among the external phenomena that affect our senses. A bundle of events that are regularly related in a definite way to other events is called a specific thing and as such distinguished from other specific things…. Whatever philosophers may say about causality, the fact remains that no action could be performed by men not guided by it. Neither can we imagine a mind not aware of the nexus of cause and effect. In this sense we may speak of causality as a category or an a priori of thinking and acting."
-Ludwig von Mises.```

2018-12-29 13:07:16 UTC  

so the universe is far right pro-order nazi fash bigot and other stuff

2018-12-29 13:07:59 UTC  

I think you are misinterpreting what I meant.

2018-12-29 13:08:11 UTC  

kind of

2018-12-29 13:08:17 UTC  

😄

2018-12-29 13:08:47 UTC  

but when universe is so orderly why do people want to create chaos

2018-12-29 13:08:56 UTC  

I'm as anti-nazi as i am anti-commie.

2018-12-29 13:09:24 UTC  

Feelings never trump reality. Feeling that water isn't wet and you don't need to hold your breath doesn't mean you will be dry and not drown.

2018-12-29 13:10:09 UTC  

i think far right and far left are similiar in a way they are both extremes of an idea and it foes into chaos when it is implemented

2018-12-29 13:10:20 UTC  

Bingo.

2018-12-29 13:10:35 UTC  

Nazis are far left.

2018-12-29 13:10:49 UTC  

Far right is ancapistan.

2018-12-29 13:11:35 UTC  

but wasn hitler on the right wing of politics? and he created nazis the nazi germany

2018-12-29 13:11:50 UTC  

commies are far left, nazi is far right

2018-12-29 13:12:02 UTC  

Yeah

2018-12-29 13:12:12 UTC  

I'm center right myself

2018-12-29 13:12:17 UTC  

Hitler was a Marxist.

2018-12-29 13:12:23 UTC  

but nazis are white identarians

2018-12-29 13:12:38 UTC  

Hm

2018-12-29 13:12:45 UTC  

or something like that (difficult word)

2018-12-29 13:13:04 UTC  

Aryan supremacists

2018-12-29 13:13:18 UTC  

yeah so they were far left

2018-12-29 13:13:36 UTC  

Fair enough... so where's the far right?

2018-12-29 13:13:46 UTC  

Corporate autocracy?

2018-12-29 13:13:53 UTC  

there wasnt a far right ideology tried yet 😅 if Hitler was left

2018-12-29 13:14:11 UTC  

Corporatism is the PC word for fascism.

2018-12-29 13:14:25 UTC  

So mussolini maybe?

2018-12-29 13:15:00 UTC  

He was "fascist" IIRC

2018-12-29 13:15:15 UTC  

Far right is ancap. Centrist would be ayn rand and hayek n shit.

2018-12-29 13:15:37 UTC  

what is far right ideology? would like to know cus i am getting lost in this thing

2018-12-29 13:15:46 UTC  

More later. Break's over

2018-12-29 13:15:53 UTC  

Rothbard and Hoppe are far right.

2018-12-29 13:16:01 UTC  

:(

2018-12-29 13:16:43 UTC  

Individualist anarchism is far right.

2018-12-29 13:17:57 UTC  

An advocate of a private law society is far right.

2018-12-29 13:18:00 UTC  

so basicly no govermenr and survival of the strongest?