They’re animals nonetheless. They should be cared about. However, they are crucial for research

That I won’t say

Also you need to remember I’m not a doctor. I don’t know what their work is about in detail. Just very, very basic stuff they use

That what they’re researching. Another purpose that could prove useful

I said I didn’t know their work in details, and I didn’t go into details. I used what I know for sure

I love this debate. First one where people don’t suddenly bring in the justice of god and whatnot to support their claim

Seeing what causes stuff are sometimes equally as important

Eletrick is right. The purpose of research is to see what will work, and what does not

Another reason is that they’re easy to manage, easy to take care of and are very genetically similar to humans so things that work on them will usually work on humans as well

I have mixed feelings about genetic engineering

On one hand, genetic engineering is basically changing what humans have been for the past 60,000 years. Maybe more. On the other hand, it can fix a lot of problems

I feel like it’s really playing god. I’m atheist, but I still don’t find that right. To a certain degree

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And more debates heating up to something no one cares about. Feelsbadman

Also, I’m intrigued by the gay frogs rank. What is it?

Anyways I’m going to sleep. Gn

Was a fun debate

No. But putting ideas that aren’t based on proper research to use do hurt people

And with that I’m done because I have to wake up at 6:45 and it’s 1am

Hospitals, universities, etc

The anti vaxx people from diseases, probably

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41538-019-0035-y
The hamburger guy asked me to post this

Oh it’s nature. My parents were so happy when one of their articles were published there

Indeed lol

I didn’t mean to flex then. I do realize it now though

Amen @eletrick33

I may find that not being vaccinated is dumb and dangerous, and not only to the person who refuses to get vaccinated, but I don’t think they deserve to get the diseases

Vaccinations don’t always eliminate the possibility. They reduce it. Some more than others

Although usually they’re in the high 90s

There will always be side effects. You can’t remove them. After all they are made of chemicals foreign to the body, that change its behavior

But if you look at the long term, side effects don’t matter. They’re temporary

However vaccines last years

That’s alchemy

Oof I was late

Is that the herbs and stuff?

Prove what’s fake?

Because if you’re talking about pseudoscience, I don’t think it’s fake. Just not even close to being as effective as modern medicine

Oh

Nvm

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Exactly

Even if they caused autism, which they don’t, autism is better than getting a fatal disease or a disease that could paralyze you

I don’t but autism has many degrees of autism. Some really bad, some barely noticeable. Just very minor autism

Make yourself clearer, or refer to the messages in your text then. Wrong order puts claims out of context

Yeah I’m not reading those. I’m not THAT bored

And what’s the problem with it?

Can you direct me to a specific vaccine?

You can’t stop abortions. That’s just impossible. The least you could do is to allow the living people to live longer and safely

There will always be abortions

In my opinion at least

I don’t think it’s okay, but I also don’t see it stopping. If you’re allowed to shoot and kill people who trespass your property, you’re allowed to kill a baby that isn’t sentient that’s inside your body (I’m talking about early pregnancy. Later stages of pregnancy should, and probably will be banned)

They help. That’s not even a question

And it’s not something I’m willing to have a debate about

Both are murder, under different circumstances. But they have their similarities

That’s foolish. Believe what you want, but it’s not safe

Stop spamming please

It’s not blind. I don’t need to do research. Thousands have done it for us all

He saw your message. Repeating won’t help

Anyways I only have 5 hours sleep. Cya

You can’t do your own research man

It takes years if careful planning

And even more careful execution

If you do a simple research with no back up (not for a debate, I mean a regulator), it means nothing

You’re also depending on other statistics. What makes your sources more valuable than mine

You think you can do research alone with nothing about the most complicated system on earth and it’ll be accurate?

That’s just living a lie, believing that if you do it it’s more accurate

Opinions don’t matter in science

Of course. You get a PhD for doing research. But with so little resources, you can do very basic research. Nothing that can’t be narrowed down or outweighed by a more accurate research

That was done by professionals that dedicated their early adult lives to that specific subject

And that can be a problem. Because not everything is believable

But you do need some resources. Not doing something and with luck it went the way you wanted it to isn’t research

I’ll yoink that

But do you know what you’re taking about as well as professionals are? Cause that’s all the difference

Yeah you can find resources. But they developed the resources you’re using

What I know is barely from the internet

Or a random Facebook page

It’s growing up around this sort of stuff

I could say the exact same thing

But I’m not going to

Cause I’m up for debate. Not personal shaming

Again I could say the exact same thing. But okay. I’m going to sleep

Have it your way. Getting stuck in the past for someone who’s already dead won’t lead to anything. Abortions aren’t caused by vaccines

Again, not always. And as long as abortions are happening, there’s nothing wrong with using vaccines

Because not using vaccines won’t stop anything

Their deaths will just go to waste

At least this way their death is not in vain

You could stop using vaccines however you like. But abortions won’t be stopped because of it

So you might as well make the most of it, as horrible as it is

Not using vaccines because of it literally doesn’t affect anything. It will lead to nothing

So if not using one won’t stop the other, you might as well not let the death go unused. It’s sad, but it’s not something worth risking your own life for

It doesn’t. Either way, they’re dead. You can’t do anything about that by not getting vaccinated

You can lead a petition against abortions. Fine by me. But risking your life and others’ lives for nothing?

That’s another subject

And I said before I’m not willing to debate this

That’s not what I meant. I know for a fact vaccines work from personal life. Debating it is worthless to me

Obviously they’re important. Not keeping an eye on those 2 are what leads to the diseases. Vaccines only prevent them if you don’t stay safe enough

Not me. I got banned from so many servers for trolling and I’m not doing it again lol. If I get banned or muted, it’s for speaking what I think.

DM me please lol

Not here

I usually am a troll

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