no posessions

sounds like Buddhist stuff ngl

Anyway

my worry about this election

is that hardcore Trump supporters are going to split from the Republican party

or like those guys in Georgia

say they're going to "destroy" it

Well

If you split the party in two

how do you expect to beat the Dems?

2 parties with half votes each

cannot beat the Democratic party

a country where one party wins all the time would be a hell

@Mr. NUT ngl I think Trumpism is the problem

it's too culty

people have to be able to recognize the problems from within their own ideologies in order to fix them for the better

the problem with the political parties

is that they're trying to move further away from the center

@GotatoChi that would be a good thing

allowing kids to get vaccines yes

anti-vaxxers are the reason measles has made a comeback

allowing kids

to get vaccines on their own violition, obviously not tricking them

@Mr. NUT oh

@GotatoChi I mean, I did when I was 13

they taught plenty in health class

about the process vaccines go through to get approved

their history

etc

none

there is no perfect nation

the notion of a perfect nation is impossible

there are things that the U.S does better than other nations

undoubtedely

@JJ04 lol

exactly

wait

a free vaccine?

commie

If the parents are too dumb to educate themselves on how vaccines work

then that's a whole other problem in and of itself

I'm glad I got my vaccines

I've gotten my flu shot once a year

and I haven't had the flu in years

^

@GotatoChi It's not though

the flu mutates

and the flu shot is free

at least in my area it is

CVS offers free flu shots

@GotatoChi seems to be anecdotal

well no duh

there is no such thing as a vaccine that works 100%

the thing is

9/10 times they help

drastically

^

and they've been proven to work most of the time

that's the point of them testing it.....

That's why people didn't want Trump rushing the people developing it

you rush a vaccine

bad stuff happens

idc who produces the vaccine

as long as it's been proven to work

One thing people think is going to happen though

is that they can get the vaccine

and not have to wear a mask

You don't have to

you should

if you live in a high risk area

@JJ04 healthy

idk bro

the people in my area wear them properly

and case numbers have been dropping since March

@GotatoChi uh no

no they haven't

Have any of you heard of Pascal's wager?

I use that logic when it comes to masks

If I wear a mask, and it turns out they don't work, oh well I wore a mask on my face big deal

If I wear a mask and they DO work

i'm helping save thousands of lives

by not spreading a virus I may or may not have

~~I mean, religion is a placebo too~~

💊

@Mr. NUT Agnostic

@AMERICANFREEDOM [CEO OF FREEDOM] because we don't get massive virus outbreaks forever

the last time we had something of this level was 100 years ago

the flu has never gotten as bad as this

We could

but I can cite a source that shows that over 80% of flu deaths are from unvaccinated individuals

*at least for 2017

this year?

I reckon about 100k

not the 250k being reported

@AMERICANFREEDOM [CEO OF FREEDOM] possibly yes

I've seen people affected by the virus

and it hit my town especially hard

not people from this "he had covid but died from a car crash"

but people that genuinely died from the virus

@Mr. NUT that's the one thing I don't understand