we won't steamroll

promise

we don't even have to debate

lmao

lol

I have a lot to say about what you just said

but this is y'alls discord, so I guess I'll try not to just come in here start flaming

yeah, I'm not sure what a better word

I just meant "starting arguments constantly"

also, I think this is the off topic chjll space, right?

oh shit

I'm drawing too much attention

I've been looking for a right wing discord that will talk to me for a while so

I miss debating folks

I've found a high number of whitenats that wanna debate me though

well, just two or three

The issue is

that if they're too big, I am just gonna get drowned out

and if they're too small, there's no one there that wants to debate me

I almost got Donaldus to debate me, but he said that he couldn't

they told me last night

Ben Garrison ended up talking to me, but he was a white nat

Ben told me

props

I like to give credit where credit is due to conservatives that don't tolerate whitenats

I think that the tea party has really fucked up the republican party

I think if they tea party becomes a third party, the republican party would get much better

I don't consider people like Dave Rubin "true liberals"

he's a guy calls himself liberal, but panders to right wingers

he does stuff with turning point USA

You're right, but you're presenting a very warped view of history

Firstly, there was a split in the republican party over economic issues

one half of the repub party more or less sided with big businesses

and the other half sided with unions more or less

then business side won out, so then the union repubs become democrats

but that's only one factor

I think there's a lot of bullshit around unions, but with that being said, I am not very informed on the subject

they were very neccisary at first though

yep

I"m not sure about that

sure lol

also

is the american tag for anyone who lives in the US

funny story,

my friend Cameron was funded by Turning Point USA

which is a right wing recruitment foundation that focuses on college age kids

lmao

well, TP USA funded my friends student govt campaign

didn't know they did taht, but they do I guesss

a lot of stuff

pro-immigration, pro-choice, pro-universal healthcare, pro-lgbt rights, etc.

no

I don't really know how bad it would be tbh

but I'm not for open border

I think the qualifications for immigrating should be really low tbh

just a background check, and maybe some proof that you're interesting in improving the country

but idk how exactly to go about it

I mean, I support DACA

Fair

I mean, I was a repub first so

Idk if it's gonna happen

I'd say I'm primarily economically liberatarian

sure

most people get what I mean when I say that

In simple terms, I tend to let the free market do what it does unless it has proven to be ineffective

for example, I think that the free market has been proven to be ineffective at insuring healthcare to all people, therefore I believe in socialized healthcare

but I also think that most people have access to food, just as a random example, so I wouldn't believe in state run food marts or something weird like that

I also agree with BLM, kind of

BLM is kind of blanket isssue

that's like saying "YOU MAN EVERYONE'S GOT PROBLEMS" to someone who's saying "My home was burned down with all my belongings"

The police that shoot them more often

the people that don't hire them based off of race

no

around 1/4 of all crimes in the US are by black people

yes

I realize that

but 50% is not true though

@Crasseus we should talk in voice

I'm looking at a graph right now though

and it said "violence"

I'm in the debate voice chat

https://www.nyccriminallawyer.com/latino-crime/

@Crasseus you wanna hop in voice chat

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/topic-pages/tables/table-21

I can see how it could be over 50% if you cherry pick stats

408,873 241,063 153,341 7,378 5,755 1,336

the 153 number is blacks

153,341/408,873 = 0.375

so about 37.5% of violent crime is commit by blacks according to the fbi crime tables

still a long shot from 50%

disproportionate

yes

not 50%

okay we can talk about this later

peace

but this still hasn't even begun to be a fair comparison because obvi white who live in small towns aren't gonna commit lots of violent crimes

if you are the very least control for where people live, it will even out much mroe

sure

total crime is 1/4

violent crime is 1/3