Perhaps I do. What is the point?

That's nihilism.

Right, if there's nothing of value left, why bother?

I'm waiting for flushtater to either find value in continuing life or admitting all that's left is schadenfreude.

It's a conjecture.

Look at a society where his ideas are already in place.

black pill should go away.

It won't. It can't.

But, it *should*

black pill is on the distribution.

it's basically red pill + despair

You see reality and then give up.

Nihilism is black pill lite.

You can be nihilistic without being properly black pilled.

Just look at leftists.

Not me.

that's because people are trying to nuance a very clear dichotomy

it's like saying gender is a spectrum.

It's not, it's a binomial distribution with a bunch of disorders.

but if you accept the stance of meat puppet, you inherently have the stance that meat puppetry has some measure of value; at least enough to not opt out altogether.

It's an interesting existential debate. I forgot which one covered it at length.

I think it was de Beavoir, might have been Camus.

If the premise of "free will does not exist" is true, then there cannot be actualization.

biology, is usually the short answer, wix.

There it is.

Suicide before reproduction proves biology is not a true master.

The nonrandom survival of randomly replicating units.

Most?

Like, most modern philosophers?

Because the classical philosophers all believed in free will.

Every major christian philosopher, so pretty much every philosopher until those hack french losers.

I've seen some of the things you're talking about.

Stuff like, "you weren't in control because all the circumstances made you do it"

That's bull.

Otherwise reframing wouldn't work.

The whole "there is no free will" is the same as "you are only ever on autopilot"

And that's patently wrong.

If nature's purpose is to produce the ultimate killer, it has already succeeded.

Black holes.

entropy

The list goes on.

How about, "We can define our own purpose"?

So, pick a purpose.

Ooh. Whoa.

I would not go so far as to say there is no evil or good.

Did you see that spiders pic in shitposting?

That's pretty evil.

Right. So, what's stopping you from picking your own purpose?

He doesn't need to know what it is. He gets to define it and change it at will.

That's great. Is there no joy in pursuing those tasks?

Personally, I absolutely love project management.

I know my engineering project leads generally detest it.

So, not only do I get to do the thing I love, it helps people for whom I have some modicum of respect.

Doing shit I wish to do is actualization.

Erm... I don't think that series of words makes sense.

No, it's existential angst.

It's an emotional philosophical hand grenade meant to disrupt your thinking.

Like a lot of the zen buddhist stuff.

No, freedom from suffering is a buddhist philosophical bit of shenanigans.

You only avoid suffering if your nerves don't work.

Mild aggravation.

Well, I'd be pretty pissed if I lost my books.

I'd be really pissed if I lost my legs.

*is bored of fortune cookie philosophizing*

There's nothing wrong with a little suffering.

free me from mental "right to vote"?

You remember that guy that was trying to get a petition to remove women's suffrage?

And people thought it meant suffering.

Until some cow came around and shrieked the truth.

Women were enthusiastically signing up.

Because it's wrong that women should have to endure suffrage.

That was good times.

Did they also do the toxic dihydrogen monoxide petition?

What if becoming a mother and wife in service to powerful man is their version of self actualization and is why housewives are the happiest women on earth?

I don't think that's the right question.

I guess you could say, yeah, when they die.

But, hypergamy also runs women off the cliff. Or, more accurately, into the wall.

even wife distribution is not a right nor a natural law.

Drop him a few bucks and ask him to detail it in video.

who is rge?

Oh, I haven't seen his stuff in a while.

Youtube hasn't pulled a Clinton on him?

You know, two gunshot wounds to the head but still ruled a suicide.

Do both.

Turns out discord has multiple server capability.

never?

nipple?

NAWALT?

When they figure out how to make an enthusiastic sex bot...

Roxgor, there's a flaw with your theory.

Modern men have lower testerone in their prime than their healthful grandfathers in their old age.

I think the gynocentrism and simpishness is cultural.

Hey all. Where's the conversation going?

I think it's the true nature of men.

Monk mode is forced and reactionary?

or fast

Well, like anything, garbage in, garbage out.

If your cost benefit analysis has bs input, you can come to garbage conclusions.

And that is sophistry.

having a reaction is not reactionary.