Sure would be nice if the independent party had a chance to actually win

Yeah...

Like TRUMP

I cringe hard when I see .45 1911 trump pistols

When he hasn't done shit for us

That explains why the ATF is doing what they're doing in that video I posted in <#659316130934030356>

The ATFs job is to imprison/kill you if necessary to enforce tyrannical anti gun laws that were passed

I feel like registering shit to the NFA is just asking for them to be taken away in the future when they decide to make them illegal

You should ask him

"Why don't you join the GOA if you support the 2A?"

Yeah I'd love to have suppressors

Same I want to buy a high quality suppressor from a good manufacturer

Yeah I thought about going with silencer co

Me too if you don't mind

Particularly a 17s in FDE

I still want one baaaaaaaaad

The 17S anyway

Maybe when I get a disposable income I'll get a 16S too

@wickedempire1 Probably wearing a wire lol

@Boojahideen Yeah but I'm always worried about big paramilitary groups because of fed plants

@Boojahideen oy vey shut it down

Would you say the stribog is as good if not better than the APC9?

Yeah the stribog is a copy/clone of the B&T APC9

But if it's as good if not better than the APC9

I might just get the stribog

Going to get a pistol vector?

I'd love to have an MP5 one day too

It would sure be nice to have a fun switch MP5

ye I know there's a few MP5 copies

Some of which were actually made on licensed H&K tooling HK sold to certain countries

Like turkey and pakistan

Yeah the POF MP5s and the Zenith MP5s

lol

But HK came out with their MP5 pistol not too long ago, the "SP5"

Which has the paddle mag release, tri lug adapter for suppressors, and the semi auto FBI lower which has the pictogram selector

Yeah they're available

The only thing that sucks about it is they have MP5K pistol sights on them

And not the traditional rear diopter MP5 sights

Good thing or bad thing for you?

Only thing I don't like about the 1911 is the single stack magazine

I haven't shot one yet though

I'm against the ATF because they'd bust me if my guns had a fun switch on them over a law that was signed before I was born and had no input on

You would know fed 😏

@Fartfignewton Yeah I know in WW1 the germans wanted to make it illegal and a war crime to use shotguns in war

If they spotted a soldier with a shotgun they'd kill them and not even take them in as prisoner lol

Truly ironic that germany has made some of the best guns ever, yet their own people can't own them

Well they sorta can

But heavily sporotrized

I know even Switzerland is starting to get worse with gun laws 😫 @Fartfignewton

And that's a country we'd always use as a talking point

Czech republic doesn't have SBR laws either

So they can straight up buy a short gun with a stock on it

ye

Czech republic is certainly better than the UK though for guns

Or Australia

No other country in the world has the freedoms we do for guns

@Boojahideen lol Iraqis can own full auto AKs too

But yeah russian civilians can own some cool shit that we don't have yet

Like a civilian VSS

I have some news for you

There's a company here making a VSS clone

It's going to cost $3K and it's going to be a 2 stamp gun though

But fuck I want it

https://www.slaggamfg.com/products/viska

lol hell yeah

I wonder if 9x39mm is better than .300 blk out though 🤔

Yeah 9x39 has been used in combat longer

lol

lol

Wait but don't cops use hollow points?

yeah have to play by the rules if NG is deployed

@Penguin4hire But it seems like the winner of the war doesn't have to deal with war crimes

Case and point WW2

We had german POWs starve to death in our camps but since we won who would stop us?

@Boojahideen I like you

You know

I find it funny how army bases don't allow personal to carry

You'd think an army base would be armed to the teeth and wouldn't be a place to start shooting

But if the soldiers don't have shit it's like shooting a school

Like fort hood

Have the M9s been replaced yet? Does everyone have the M17/P320?

I hear the M9s are worn out as shit

Explains why I hear soldiers say Beretta 92s suck

But civilians love them

Beretta was the lowest bidder

When it came down to it it was either the SIG p226 or the Beretta in the final portion of the trial

Neither were american

I don't remember if glock even entered the trials in the 80s

Yeah glock was focused on the Austrian trials I believe in the 80s

Same

Legit

I want a PS90

Ideally I want a fun switch on it of course

but too bad it can't happen

You do know the 5.7x28mm round was designed to replace 9mm?

Only reason it didn't was because HK got butthurt that the P90 beat the MP7

So germany said no to it

Want to know something funny about the 4x30 round?

HK was trying to make a pistol that would fire it

The HK UCP but it got cancelled because ballistically it was too weak being fired out of a pistol