ahh you mean the tainting

nono it goes beyond that

Roman historians themselves wrote shit and lies on emperors. Rich people hated them

Especially the ones that supported the Plebs

Sadly, poor people dont write books

raping slaves was illegal in Rome

it happened once. Once.

National catastrophe

Banned immediately

Interesting bit of history

YOU are made up

>but sir! we got multiple sources from 2016 that orange man bad!!!!
< i still think those are biased and not the complete thing, son

t. historians at year 3000

saying how emperors dicked young boys? totally unbiased

broooo

you didnt fuck your slaves back then

it wasnt 1800s america

jeez bro

if they did it had to be consensual

it was illegal to maim or rape

No. Plenty went to prison for raping slaves

Ill send an example

in all periods bro, even today

but not in society at large

thought you meant it was accepted just like that

what accepted?

Homos?

omfg

which old denomination tolerates gays

any penetration that isnt on your opposite sex spouse was a grave sin

now

homosexuality?

unthinkable

it happened obv

@Nerthulas looks hetero

LMAO

based

primary sources or grfo

they are good for reading em

but a man worth his weight reads it, not follow whatever ""consensus"" they arrive

a greek said it

some relevant quote

@Nerthulas looks hetero

you mean that looks like a penis?

that was a mind fuck @ayyycough

experiments are indeed anecdotes

holy fuck

just didnt make the connection

with empirical it is usually understood to be well controlled and with an effort to be objective

oh i draw a bit further than that

there is rarely a consensus

they say that when it is like above 90% of scientists maybe

why?

reading the studies yourself and not the conclusions

bro you just appealed to authority

@ayyycough copernicus is a classic

and galileo

you died mid sentence rip

the lying was usually before

muslims copied from books that were already copied by christians

dum dum

islam is mainstream since 700

rome went catholic in like 300

think about what you just wrote

read it

@ayyycough yes i was being generous

by 700 islam was already huge too

no, it was later sorry

@brainwash lel

the stupid jokes are funnier sommetimes

i think troglodyte is a racist and ethnophobic term. They are humans just like us!!!!!!!!

@Nerthulas idk thats MY narrative

13th century still happened tho

some books only existed in like a single monastery, even major ones

did ya know the Odyssey won second place in the equivalent on the Nobel back in ancient greece?

guess who went first

lost thru time!!!!

fun

some good shit isnt copied

@Nerthulas there was gay in victorian england

the argument is if it was mainstream

i meant some "classics" that contain graphic homosex descriptions were routinely copied in three major homophobic nations is a little far fetched

we only got one source on Josephus, a crucial writer and it was heavily edited by a monk

but like, badly edited

a jew that converted to pagan in 70ad talking about how Christ is our Savior, jeez

@Nerthulas they didnt

usually you find them in one or the other

a few exceptions

we dont even have original unedited texts of the bible

omfg

conspire what?

they were changed

and there was a selection bias

those they hated?

both of these points are not exclusionary, quite the opposite

a proper edit to tarnish a guy requires you to be either the only one interested on preserving it, or the only one with copies

@brainwash fuck her

nono marry her

then fuck bareback

@ayyycough or destroyed, that makes me rage sometimes