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2019-08-14 02:36:46 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

THATS NOT A THING

2019-08-14 02:37:36 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Everytime i hear someone call themselves "lefties" they just end up being cowardly socialists.

2019-08-14 02:38:02 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Trying to sit under the liberal blanket but wants to overthrow society.

2019-08-14 02:38:24 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

At least be honest and just say you're a socialist.

2019-08-14 02:38:40 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

What are liberals then

2019-08-14 02:38:51 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

lmao

2019-08-14 02:38:57 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

no thats neo liberals

2019-08-14 02:39:07 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

neo liberals =/= liberal

2019-08-14 02:39:19 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

no... no its not

2019-08-14 02:39:22 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Google it.

2019-08-14 02:39:26 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Fuck sakes.

2019-08-14 02:40:04 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

wow, what a red pill!

2019-08-14 02:40:19 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Me?

2019-08-14 02:40:30 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

he's left dude

2019-08-14 02:40:33 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

LEFT

2019-08-14 02:40:40 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

You know, that political party of Left.

2019-08-14 02:40:51 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

haha anarchist.

2019-08-14 02:40:57 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

go to bed

2019-08-14 02:41:10 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

yea no kidding

2019-08-14 02:41:16 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

>thinking anarchy works

2019-08-14 02:42:04 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Every anarchist always ends up forming some kinds of non government government to solve everything.

2019-08-14 02:42:21 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

lol

2019-08-14 02:42:51 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

You're right, Anarchism just ends up being a monarchy or dictatorship of some kind.

2019-08-14 02:43:09 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

go on

2019-08-14 02:43:50 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Hierchies, like governments?

2019-08-14 02:43:56 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Or royal famillies

2019-08-14 02:44:13 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

No, I just don't think you understand the end result of anarchism.

2019-08-14 02:44:21 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Yea exactly.

2019-08-14 02:44:39 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

It's no different to communists trying to ignore science.

2019-08-14 02:45:01 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Who decides what unjustified? Pol Pot?

2019-08-14 02:45:41 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

"Give random humans power"

2019-08-14 02:45:58 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Give them all the responsibilities over you.

2019-08-14 02:46:42 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

You know it's strange how communist governments never found fault in themselves, but many faults among the populace.

2019-08-14 02:47:04 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Anarchy would just amount to the same.

2019-08-14 02:47:46 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

You're giving the power to whoever to decide what hierarchy is good or bad. Sounds like a holocaust waiting to happen.\

2019-08-14 02:48:18 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Do you elect the person who will decide what hierarchy is bad?

2019-08-14 02:50:18 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

What is anarchy without a state?

2019-08-14 02:51:04 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

That's just communism.

2019-08-14 02:51:16 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

No wonder anarchist and commies are friends.

2019-08-14 02:51:28 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Violence

2019-08-14 02:51:40 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

yea no shit

2019-08-14 02:51:51 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/598762957257703438/611029188950097930/capitalism_vs_comms_and_anarchs_reality.png

2019-08-14 02:52:07 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Communist hate communism but want communism. That's why it's dumb.

2019-08-14 02:54:11 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

What happens when someone doesn't want to play the anarchy game and just usurps power?

2019-08-14 02:55:03 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

And you know, security.

2019-08-14 02:56:07 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Yea property is pretty cool. Remember when only kings owned land? We came a long way and now communists want to take it away again and hold it under state power(again).

2019-08-14 02:57:01 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Anarchist need to realize that they're state or whatever won't be in a vaccume.

2019-08-14 02:57:15 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

You'll have to compete with capitalist nations.

2019-08-14 02:57:54 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Maybe he'll get over the romantic vision of communism.

2019-08-14 02:58:04 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

It's true

2019-08-14 03:00:01 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Personal and private are just interchangeable synonyms.

2019-08-14 03:00:11 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Esp when it comes to property

2019-08-14 03:00:32 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

all soap is the same

2019-08-14 03:00:40 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Soap is private or personal?

2019-08-14 03:01:02 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Why isn't it private?

2019-08-14 03:01:51 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

What do you mean hammers don't produce profit?

2019-08-14 03:01:58 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

What if it's an antique

2019-08-14 03:02:23 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Hammers can gain value.

2019-08-14 03:02:26 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Anything can

2019-08-14 03:02:36 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Value is based on demand.

2019-08-14 03:03:00 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

If hammers become rare all of a sudden, your hammer's resale value just went up/

2019-08-14 03:03:13 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Just like property

2019-08-14 03:03:15 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

or cars

2019-08-14 03:03:40 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

value and price are the same thing i nthis instance.

2019-08-14 03:03:48 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

The value is the price you sell it for.

2019-08-14 03:04:54 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

How do communist determine value without using capitalist values?

2019-08-14 03:05:20 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

This copuld apply to anarchist as well

2019-08-14 03:05:35 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

How does an anarchist market determine value?

2019-08-14 03:06:40 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Yea but the value and price are tied in a market. YOu might think your hammer is worth $1000 when it isn't it doesn make your value more true than the market price.

2019-08-14 03:07:49 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Right, but who care if you think it's worth more than the market price. That's what decides value over time, the market price.

2019-08-14 03:09:02 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

yes, but at the end of the day the market price matters, the value you set to it doesn.

2019-08-14 03:09:38 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

No one cares if you want to charge more, you'll just never sell your product.

2019-08-14 03:10:59 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Yea of course, the value can be whatever you want.

2019-08-14 03:18:20 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

"value"

2019-08-14 03:19:13 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

How would one even calculate capitalism death

2019-08-14 03:19:37 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

what

2019-08-14 03:20:10 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

How many people had capiutalism killed(ignoring all the scientific progress done that probably saved lives)?

2019-08-14 03:21:07 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

>not real communism bruh

2019-08-14 03:21:16 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

lol

2019-08-14 03:21:35 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Capitalism has killed more people by boring them to suicide.

2019-08-14 03:22:08 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Capitalism has killed more people with this obesity epidemic.

2019-08-14 03:22:18 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

pff

2019-08-14 03:22:21 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

what is this spam

2019-08-14 03:23:04 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

What about heart disease?

2019-08-14 03:23:25 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

High colesterol?

2019-08-14 03:23:38 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Damn capitalism

2019-08-14 03:23:42 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Killing fatties

2019-08-14 03:24:21 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Not sugar?

2019-08-14 03:24:36 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Seems like sugar and sant is a big problem i nthe US.

2019-08-14 03:25:30 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Who's denying it?

2019-08-14 03:26:00 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

You don't beleive the holofomor happened?

2019-08-14 03:26:07 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

lol ok

2019-08-14 03:27:05 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Lying Ukrainians, trying to get our sympathies.

2019-08-14 03:27:14 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Stalin wasn't even that bad

2019-08-14 03:27:21 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

lol

2019-08-14 03:27:40 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Becasue it was a historical event

2019-08-14 03:27:57 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

It literally stunted an entire generation.

2019-08-14 03:28:20 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

Yea, who cares about history.

2019-08-14 03:28:43 UTC [Athens #voulí_politics_discussion]  

That's a strange argument

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