Frenler

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2019-09-14 09:31:18 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

when i was a kid i studied stuff like this -- the rise of middle class literature, decadent art, etc

2019-09-14 09:32:12 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

study john gardner's on moral fiction, it was a visceral reaction to modern literature and genre fiction

2019-09-14 09:32:50 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

i've moved past this stuff too -- the degenerate art argument is dumb because it's based on a premise of dehumanization

2019-09-14 09:34:05 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

picasso, magritte, the various modernist writers -- these people had real human motivations behind their work.

2019-09-14 09:34:28 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

even the piss christ guy is a christian

2019-09-14 09:35:50 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

john gardner is about as far as you can go taking traditional intellectual art forms seriously. you nazi larpers honestly underestimate the complexity of traditional forms

2019-09-14 09:36:54 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

he was probably one of the most hardcore traditional art nihilists of all time and had a big impact on me

2019-09-14 09:38:11 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

but unfortunately over the years i've realized that this is kind of just storytelling outside of gardner's utilitarian practical approach to literature and art

2019-09-14 09:38:43 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

gardner points out the functional or practical superiority of ancient fiction through their design

2019-09-14 09:40:46 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

i view art from a super utilitarian perspective similar to gardner but even further than that -- understanding it through actual data and evidence similar to that which is used in race realism

2019-09-14 09:41:53 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

and my concern is literally just the practical function of art which is basically a record which stores powerful thoughts and feelings

2019-09-14 09:43:06 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

and so i view art completely deconstructed at the atomic level -- that of abstraction. and so i'm literally open to any kind of art so long as it produces the desired effect

2019-09-14 09:44:31 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

because philosophy is just how you muscle your feelings into an intellectual system

2019-09-14 09:45:19 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

the faustian man stuff is just "white people are beautiful," "i like germany," "i like my self determination"

2019-09-14 09:46:05 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

test

2019-09-14 09:48:16 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

i don't understand the question

2019-09-14 09:48:32 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

oh

2019-09-14 09:49:06 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

well what i'm getting at is philosophy is just a bunch of facts weaved into stories

2019-09-14 09:49:36 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

in the same way that history is a bunch of facts weaved into storie

2019-09-14 09:49:40 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

*stories

2019-09-14 09:50:07 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

use babytalk

2019-09-14 09:52:05 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

i'm not saying the logic of a philosophical system is literally incorrect ("what is a chair?"), i'm simply pointing out how philosophies are used to give our feelings some intellectual muscle

2019-09-14 09:52:41 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

the motivations behind the philosophies are in the babytalk

2019-09-14 09:53:12 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

"i like white people." "you're being mean to black people." "the rich people are being mean to us."

2019-09-14 09:53:40 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

and then they create this philosophical system to give those simple childish feelings some muscle

2019-09-14 09:54:11 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

kind of like tim wise with white privilege. it's just "you're being mean to black people" and "white people are bad"

2019-09-14 09:54:45 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

when i use the term philosophy don't get hard up on the definition

2019-09-14 09:55:12 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

philosophy-philosophy is the literal logical study of the world

2019-09-14 09:56:32 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

i'm talking about a mixture of logic, feelings, creative imagery, and intellectual reasoning that forms the meme package

2019-09-14 09:57:10 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

well here's the thing

2019-09-14 09:57:29 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

it's not possible to create a perfectly consistent logical system, reality doesn't care

2019-09-14 09:59:42 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

i've boiled anti racism down even further than ryan faulk, in fact i believe i've found the root

2019-09-14 10:00:20 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

well ok let's talk about this double standard

2019-09-14 10:00:48 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

your judgement is clouded when you try to get into the weeds about how their thinking doesn't work

2019-09-14 10:01:09 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

you're up at the base of the tree when you do this

2019-09-14 10:01:29 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

go as far down to the root as possible. that's where you destroy the tree

2019-09-14 10:02:13 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

what's actually going on here is that white people "feel bad" for black people and "feel bad" hearing statements like "black people are dumb"

2019-09-14 10:02:28 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

and they read sad stories and go "oh no you're not dumb"

2019-09-14 10:02:53 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

and what they're doing here is they're buying into the premise that they, the white people, are the standard of quality

2019-09-14 10:03:04 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

which then becomes race equality

2019-09-14 10:04:32 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

the hilarious irony of anti racism is that it's actually a white supremacist ideology. i know that's boomer as fuck but yes, the entire premise of anti racism is hinged on the idea that white people are the standard

2019-09-14 10:05:02 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

they're trying to say that black people are "just as good" as themselves

2019-09-14 10:05:28 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

yes i've thought about alternatives

2019-09-14 10:05:41 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

i'm aware of the jewish stuff too and that's another topic

2019-09-14 10:06:37 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

but really race equality is MOSTLY about blacks and whites. hispanics are a bonus

2019-09-14 10:06:52 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

and then the jewish stuff is this crazy backend thing that inflames it

2019-09-14 10:08:18 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

the jewish stuff is a bit different than how most people in our movement tend to imagine because they use "philosophy" to make sense of them as opposed to just boiling it down from first principles

2019-09-14 10:09:16 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

what most people do is they figure out the jewish stuff, but then they just make sense of them through the anecdotes and stories that they read as opposed to data or first principles or confrontation etc

2019-09-14 10:09:43 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

jews are just fucked up batshit crazy

2019-09-14 10:10:49 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

i've dealt with them, and basically a lot of them are psychologically and emotionally damaged in a perplexing and mysterious way that is genuine and probably has something to do with being raised on the holocaust from day 1

2019-09-14 10:11:20 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

a lot of anti racist activists, even black ones, have some sort of fucked up tragic backstory

2019-09-14 10:11:40 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

and when you talk to them they're just really weird and uncanny like they've been raped

2019-09-14 10:12:05 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

even daryl davis was beaten up as a kid by some whites

2019-09-14 10:13:06 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

i talked to eric clopper for example. this fucking nut believes that circumcision is the root cause behind genocides and that he has to expose it to save the jewish people

2019-09-14 10:14:04 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

most jews are normal people (probably), i'm aware this weirdness extends way further back

2019-09-14 10:14:41 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

but as far as the anti white stuff they're basically fucking nuts for whatever reason and they just do insane batshit stuff because that's just what they do

2019-09-14 10:15:12 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

another theory i have is that intellect correlates with "insanity"

2019-09-14 10:15:17 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

"white people are crazy"

2019-09-14 10:15:53 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

yeah white people just feel bad

2019-09-14 10:15:58 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

๐Ÿ˜ฆ

2019-09-14 10:16:49 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

in order to create some sort of philosophical or ideological system you need brainpower

2019-09-14 10:16:58 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

black people aren't very philosophical

2019-09-14 10:17:06 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

they're just nationalists

2019-09-14 10:17:13 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

jews have a lot of brainpower

2019-09-14 10:17:46 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

so if anyone is going to do insane shit like communism or transgenderism it's the jews

2019-09-14 10:18:17 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

they're nuts. they're fucking crazy. incomprehensible maniacs who do shit that makes people want to kill them

2019-09-14 10:18:29 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

we're just less crazy than them

2019-09-14 10:18:59 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

because all of our cool intellectual theorizing, while a product of brain power, isn't really consistent or rational. it can't be

2019-09-14 10:19:22 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

no honey i'm an outlier

2019-09-14 10:20:23 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

the irrational behavior of blacks is just "nigga aye fuck dem police"

2019-09-14 10:21:15 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

whereas the irrational behavior of jews is circumcising babies and coming up with a philosophical system about cum and structures of shit privilege

2019-09-14 10:21:54 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

i've literally met an anti semitic jew irl

2019-09-14 10:22:30 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

they're fucking insane. this kid had some sort of german helmet that he wore when we were camping

2019-09-14 10:22:56 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

it sounds fake but i think he had a white parent

2019-09-14 10:23:12 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

he wasn't too close to his jewishness anyways

2019-09-14 10:23:33 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

i mean fuck look at brother nathaniel

2019-09-14 10:23:50 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

these people are nuts. put them in a padded cell

2019-09-14 10:24:42 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

that's what hitler should have done -- send them to the psyche ward

2019-09-14 10:24:56 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

yeah i betcha

2019-09-14 10:25:12 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

and fuck look at asia

2019-09-14 10:25:35 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

blacks can't pull off communism because they're like shieett

2019-09-14 10:26:13 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

niggas be like "shieett we marxin now"

2019-09-14 10:26:48 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

hey that's a good point about autism

2019-09-14 10:27:31 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

yeah, basically they're fucked in the head in some sort of way

2019-09-14 10:28:04 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

they literally don't know why people hate them and they literally just believe the shit they say

2019-09-14 10:28:32 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

i've studied holocaust revision

2019-09-14 10:28:50 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

some things that are pointed out are probably true

2019-09-14 10:30:11 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

but in general given my experiences with people who hate jews, and extrapolating from there, dehumanization probably made it inevitable that the germans decided to just kill them

2019-09-14 10:30:30 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

they weren't going to be nuanced, that's why they got rid of iq tests

2019-09-14 10:31:16 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

literally anything that could be used to apologize for jews was rationalized out of the picture entirely. including their abandonment of race *science* as was practiced in the allied west

2019-09-14 10:31:52 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

they probably built the camps and didn't know how to go about it or what they were going

2019-09-14 10:31:55 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

*doing

2019-09-14 10:32:48 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

it could be that they didn't know exactly how they were going to do it or if they should, i mean they had to have lots of conferences about this. they even tried the madagascar thing

2019-09-14 10:33:00 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

yeah i'm aware

2019-09-14 10:33:05 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

prob not

2019-09-14 10:33:22 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

obv a lot of it was exaggerated

2019-09-14 10:34:50 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

but i think in general given the counter evidence i've seen, my own feelings in the past towards jews and how terrifying and unfalsifiable the perspective is, i think they just decided "ok, i guess we'll just kill them" and they didn't plan it well and it was a failure

2019-09-14 10:35:09 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

and then the jews afterwards told all sorts of stories about it

2019-09-14 10:35:51 UTC [GRO_A4 0XA4 #promenade]  

how their heads were shaved to "remove their individuality" which is amazing that they taught me this in school

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