james you misunderstand the fundamental ways our republic is run

yeah have fun surviving on grapes and oranges

unfortunately voters like james will push us to the point of violence being the only option

i don't think james is fit for these types of discussions

he doesn't realize the full ramifications of what would happen

james the point is we ARE NOT a democracy

you aren't asking tough questions. you are close minded and unironically advocating for a future that will play out more or less like the turner diaries

alright guys im done fighitng toxic leftism in this discord today. james idk why you even asking for sources are citation because you arent going to read them anyways

doc seems to know what he is talking about, but fact check it anyway

its simple, establishment republicans and democrats made the coastal liberal cities think that my existence is the reason why their lives suck, people like james unironically think this and will vote based off of this egregious viewpoint that I never had a say in. it will only lead to the rural states losing complete confidence in the federal government, a war and famine that will kill everyone who thinks like him, and then a return to an American republic that is absent of social democrats. this idea of what the actual chain of events would be isn't new either. many people in the 20th century saw this coming.

absolute cherry picking lol. anyone with an iq higher than Californian average sees right through you james

your whole narrative is bunk. your ideas and platform are supported by the lowest iq people in this country

regardless if high iq people are holding the reigns

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0160289606001061#aep-abstract-id3

i believe its this

people in this chat unironically think that if the blue areas along the coast separated from the red areas, that the blue areas will have a higher standard of living LOL

show me one example with a source where a small town exerted improper influence over a larger city

i believe the point of his affidavit is that the rates used with available data are producing statistically impossible outcomes that only benefit democrat districts

I think that is a toxic viewpoint and if you want to prove everyone wrong then open up the data so we can see that this guy is full of shit and his projections were completely wrong

he can then be charged under perjury or sued for libel and slander by the company's in question

i just got here but i think i know what you guys are talking about, hopefully

im sick of glow in the dark cia pedophiles subverting our media

like what are they thinking, what are their agenda meetings like ? "yeah guys we are going to do a big push to make Americans living on the coast unironically believe that joe biden hands down won the presidency"

what a dumb psyop

i save a lot of the data i come across, i understand little of it

but i will post some of it

no one is alleging it is proof. it is evidence. evidence is used to find proof or determine it

this can easily be proven true or false by allowing the people making these accusations the data to check it

if its false everyone drops it and anyone who hangs on to the voter fraud narrative in this situation is delusional

but the attempts of dems to not let this information be proven true or false leads one to logically believe that they are hiding something

in criminal cases if you did this to law enforcement you would be charged with obstruction of justice

or contempt of court in other cases

the fact that the media wants to disparage people who are seeing irregularities and want to proof check them is sickening

yes evidence isnt the same as proof, you use evidence to prove something happened

having an obama appointed judge throw out a lawsuit because he thinks being in the same room satisfies the definition of 'meaningful observation' makes it hard to believe that

don't you realize what this means? do you think its over because of this?

I don't think you have a clear picture either. If anything your viewpoint is more warped

https://www.post-gazette.com/news/crime-courts/2020/11/25/pennsylvania-vote-election-certification-sean-parnell-mike-kelly-commonwealth-court-appeal/stories/202011250159

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pennsylvania-republicans-supreme-court-review-motion-sean-parnell

the real issue here is that the same state legislature that passed an unconstitutional law is now challenging the law that they passed

which is dirty politics

these people should be held accountable but I don't think there is any function to do so

judges were never supposed to be the philosopher kings we make them out to be today

yeah thats what i'm saying its dirty and these republicans should be held accountable

they passed an unconstitutional law and it didn't work out in their favor, so now they are challenging the constitutionality of a bill they themselves passed after they lost

it doesnt matter though

we are arguing something that will soon not have an effect

i hate gov websites they are hard to navigate, one second

why, the majority of your party members tacitly approved of violent actions by ANTIFA/BLM over the summer in the name of law enforcement impropriety and corruption

the only thing that dems and repubs should agree upon is how fucked our federal law enforcement is

anyways I found what I was looking for

https://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/Legis/CSM/showMemoPublic.cfm?chamber=H&SPick=20190&cosponId=32628

thats been the dem strategy this year, rush certification so they can say in court 'welp looks like nothing can be done about it because we already certified.'

PA didn't certify 2016 election results until december 12th

you cannot deny that this is what they are doing

and this is why the state leg is rescinding the privileges they extended to the secretary of state

also the CISA thing is an easy debunk lol https://www.cisa.gov/government-facilities-election-infrastructure-charters-and-membership

look at who is part of the comittee that made the statement that krebbs published

oh it was a different date this year https://www.media.pa.gov/pages/State-details.aspx?newsid=207

this year in PA it was the 23rd

this is the board that determined that 2020 was the most secure election in history

sorry but i don't know what you mean by this

no its right in the .gov sites

https://www.cisa.gov/news/2020/11/12/joint-statement-elections-infrastructure-government-coordinating-council-election

this is absolutely not a straw grasp

as you are implying

there is the statement from cisa that krebbs published

then we go to look who is the 'Elections Infrastructure Government Coordinating Council & the Election Infrastructure Sector Coordinating Executive Committees'

That page is here https://www.cisa.gov/government-facilities-election-infrastructure-charters-and-membership

look at the members of this board. the people in question released a statement that there is nothing to question

its all plain and in the open

on official .gov websites

krebbs did not make this statement, he published it

no, in any situation that wasn't highly politicized this would be a clear conflict of interest and laughed off and never brought up again

no but telling me there is nothing to see there is disingenuous

According to all relevant documents it seemed like the trump admin was doing that

Patented, executive orders, trumps tweets from 8 years ago alleging the same things happening then as they are now

Truly mind boggling that there seemed to be all of this preparation for an agency to catch or watch this and that it never was made

If this is really how it ends for the trump admin that’s a huge failure

Busillis they had been actually doing things and making preparations for this election , and now they are using hindsight and whataboutism for the things that they explicitly planned for

Zulu they made patents for block chain watermarked ballots that they never used . EOs were passed into law for this exact situation . There were multiple preparations made

The MSM was setting up to accuse trump of what trump is accusing now

John Oliver, cnn, etc all made articles one year ago about the very same systems and companies being questioned today

The far right has always hated Tim pool

this is all theater and they are running off of a script. I don't know what any of it means or its implications but I do believe that none of this is candid

lol the image isnt flipped

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/361682-mccain-explains-why-his-boot-was-on-a-different-foot

https://twitter.com/SenJohnMcCain/status/933409288407736320

no when did i ever say that

im implying elderly politicians do weird shit involving ankle injuries

i dont know what it means

but they clearly are doing something

yes

why was that just deleted?

you are mistakenly considering that government officials deserve a benefit of doubt and shouldnt or don't deserve to be scrutinized anymore than a private citizen is