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2017-10-17 20:08:17 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

yeah

2017-10-17 20:08:50 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

"war is GOOD1!1!!" - Mussolini

2017-10-17 20:09:52 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

yeah, but he literally said that war was a fundamental cornerstone of society

2017-10-17 20:10:16 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

capitalism is gay

2017-10-17 20:11:46 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

@Patmahn I would honestly be surprised if anyone took the Italian fascists seriously anymore

2017-10-17 20:12:02 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

mussolini was an absolute clown

2017-10-17 20:12:40 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

yeah

2017-10-17 20:12:49 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

he couldn't even beat fucking ethiopia without gas

2017-10-17 20:13:19 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

capยทiยทtalยทism
หˆkapษ™dlหŒizษ™m/Submit
noun
an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.

2017-10-17 20:13:21 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

capยทiยทtalยทism
หˆkapษ™dlหŒizษ™m/Submit
noun
an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.

2017-10-17 20:13:27 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

"freedumbz!! lol!!1!"

2017-10-17 20:13:40 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

no

2017-10-17 20:14:15 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

I try to avoid ideology

2017-10-17 20:14:26 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

I see marxism as a philosophy, more than anything

2017-10-17 20:15:22 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

well, I would consider socialism to be ideal

2017-10-17 20:15:26 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

when it comes to politics

2017-10-17 20:15:42 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

but marxism is really just a scientific analysis of human history, when it comes down to it

2017-10-17 20:17:17 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

It isn't really a question of liking or disliking marxism, imo

2017-10-17 20:17:22 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

it's more about beliefs

2017-10-17 20:17:29 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

well, yeah

2017-10-17 20:17:46 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

the soviet treatment of christians was awful

2017-10-17 20:17:55 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

then again, they persecuted loads of people

2017-10-17 20:18:02 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

fellow party members were often the first to go

2017-10-17 20:18:35 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

stalinism is rightfully despised by most people on the left

2017-10-17 20:18:47 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

the spanish shit was mostly just with the anarchists

2017-10-17 20:18:59 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

yeahhh

2017-10-17 20:20:07 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

I think that hitler was the embodiment of ruling-class malevolence

2017-10-17 20:20:16 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

in the words of Lenin, "fascism is capitalism in decay"

2017-10-17 20:20:41 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

yeah

2017-10-17 20:20:46 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

he was talking about mussolini's fascism

2017-10-17 20:21:05 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Hitler basically sucked the dick of corporations throughout his country

2017-10-17 20:21:10 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

persecuted unions

2017-10-17 20:21:11 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

etc

2017-10-17 20:21:31 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

I don't know much about them

2017-10-17 20:22:28 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

I think that nationalism is usually mobilized in defence of capital and the ruling class

2017-10-17 20:23:31 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

yeah, but it's useful as a means to distract and subdue the working class

2017-10-17 20:23:43 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

lol yeah

2017-10-17 20:24:19 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

personally, i don't think the ussr was socialist

2017-10-17 20:24:26 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

because they didn't abolish the commodity form

2017-10-17 20:24:28 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

or wage labor

2017-10-17 20:25:00 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

yeah, that's what I think

2017-10-17 20:25:34 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

If you ever have some spare time

2017-10-17 20:25:45 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

I would recommend checking out raya dunayevskaya's critique of the ussr

2017-10-17 20:25:58 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

that's a really well-articulated left-wing critique of the soviet union

2017-10-17 20:25:59 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

imo

2017-10-17 20:27:16 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

@Patmahn I think that america is cucked beyond belief

2017-10-17 20:27:17 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

tbh

2017-10-17 20:27:28 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Although I don't really follow current events much

2017-10-17 20:27:32 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

anyways, i have to go for a little

2017-10-17 20:27:40 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

if you're interested in that thing i was talking about

2017-10-17 20:27:43 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

check this out

2017-10-17 21:38:07 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

hitler began a program of mass-privatization, banned unions, and killed leftists

2017-10-17 21:38:12 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

seems pretty right-wing to me

2017-10-17 21:38:21 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

and the nazis weren't socialist

2017-10-17 21:38:50 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

literally just look at fucking wikipedia lol

2017-10-17 21:39:10 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

"Socialism is a range of economic and social systems characterised by social ownership and democratic control of the means of production, as well as the political theories and movements associated with them."

2017-10-17 21:39:35 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

not a fan of wikipedia?

2017-10-17 21:39:39 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

would you prefer a dictionary?

2017-10-17 21:39:42 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

lol

2017-10-17 21:40:19 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

how about this, then

2017-10-17 21:40:29 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

also

2017-10-17 21:41:02 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

daily reminder that capitalism breeds societal decadence and degeneracy by commodifying culture

2017-10-17 21:42:02 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

it's still intentional

2017-10-17 21:42:09 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

do they do it accidentally?

2017-10-17 21:42:10 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

no

2017-10-17 21:42:20 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

capitalism provides an incentive for them to do so

2017-10-17 21:42:29 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

it's either intentional or it isn't

2017-10-17 21:42:55 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

define intentional

2017-10-17 21:43:11 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

things are either done purposely

2017-10-17 21:43:12 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

or they're not

2017-10-17 21:43:58 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

"friggin cucks, disagreeing with me! how could they!?!?"

2017-10-17 21:44:48 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

nah

2017-10-17 21:45:06 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

"several people are typing..."

2017-10-17 21:45:32 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

yeah, famines definitely never happen under capitalism

2017-10-17 21:45:44 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

which is why 6 million people starve every year

2017-10-17 21:46:40 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

@amygdala are you trolling?

2017-10-17 21:46:43 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

i honestly can't tell

2017-10-17 21:48:12 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

capยทiยทtalยทism
หˆkapษ™dlหŒizษ™m/Submit
noun
an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.

2017-10-17 21:48:21 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

that's untrue

2017-10-17 21:48:23 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

but okay

2017-10-17 21:48:49 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

calling yourself a socialist =/= actually establishing socialism

2017-10-17 21:49:02 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

is the democratic people's republic of korea a democracy?

2017-10-17 21:49:35 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

if something doesn't fit the established definition of socialism

2017-10-17 21:49:39 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

then it isn't socialism

2017-10-17 21:49:54 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

lenin himself said that the ussr was state capitalist under his leadership

2017-10-17 21:50:01 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

he saw state capitalism as a step towards socialism

2017-10-17 21:50:24 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

that's not what i'm saying lmao

2017-10-17 21:51:05 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

i'm saying that not even lenin claimed the early ussr to have been socialist

2017-10-17 21:51:34 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

i don't care if you're making retarded implications

2017-10-17 21:51:39 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

that's your choice

2017-10-17 21:52:39 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

you don't have an argument, do you?

2017-10-17 21:52:57 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

you're literally just shitting out meaningless banter now

2017-10-17 21:54:32 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

i love how you keep making these retarded, baseless implications

2017-10-17 21:54:40 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

again

2017-10-17 21:54:44 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

that's not what i said

2017-10-17 21:55:50 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

i'm saying that E V E N lenin considered russia to have been state capitalist

2017-10-17 21:56:01 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

i never stated that his quote, in itself, proved anything

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