It was a really fucked position to even start out in.

German intelligence believed that Russia was planning to turn on them, and so they launched a preemptive attack. Later declassified historical documents from Russia revealed, they were *right.*

Russia *was* planning to attack Germany, and Germany just beat them to the punch.

I forget the source, I read it a while back. But basically, they were both preparing to betray each other, and Germany just acted first, while Russia still believed they had something to gain from delaying it.

And yeah, they weren't a very good alliance, very opportunistic.

I'd have to rediscover my source, before I could really compare notes.

But also, am I correct in assuming your position is that the Russians *had no* plans in place to betray Germany, prior to the German attack?

https://puu.sh/DTMiW/6d6166777b.png

Forgive me if I take this source with a grain of salt

well, my point was more just a meme than anything

Holy shit, I actually watched it, and it's dumber than I thought it would be.

Like, I figured he would just rehash some wiki tier historical documentation about the details of the holocaust, but instead he literally just argues that Hitler being a socialist means he had to have killed 6 million Jews.

Not even that it would be in line with his mission, but that it must have happened.

Basically all he's establishing is *motive*

My contention is less that I'm really sold on any particular narrative of what happened, and more that I'm concerned with how aggressively anyone trying to argue counter to the mainstream narrative is silenced.

My suspicion, is that there were executions of Jews, probably even on a massive scale. Much of the death was likely due to starvation and disease however, and the gas chambers themselves, particularly their widescale implementation is a highly suspicious detail, as is the mass incineration.

The specific *number* is also highly suspicious, but it's perfectly possible there were indeed millions killed.

And if you're publishing books on Amazon, they'll intimidate the company into taking them down. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

I believe it's highly likely certain details which have been enshrined in the official narrative are largely embellishments. Simply what endured after the more fanciful accounts were whittled away.

It's also however possible that certain deceptive self-professed survivors are undermining the credibility of the story by making up bullshit. And that for the most part, the core events still occurred.

Even including the gas chambers.

Well, first off, don't assume the people actually making the plans are the same ones who are actually being subjected to the negative consequences of those plans.

Second of all, "Of coursh."

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/rDuetklFtDQ/maxresdefault.jpg

That went missing, and then suddenly a whole bunch of jews reappeared, probably just bred really fast, I guess

What even is Mr Sinister's power, actually?

I'm just yanking your chain

>Iron Man Anarcho Primitivist

so, uh, Skin Man?

Not even animal skins, because appropriating animal parts to act as a barrier is a form of technology

Just his own skin

and then he gets a piece of shrapnel in his heart and immediately dies

What about a Hulk that becomes smarter the angrier he gets?

To my Knowledge, Grey Hulk just retains Bruce's normal intelligence while transformed

Hulk gets Stronger the more Depressed he is

one dollah

>imbibing the fermented jew

aww, the molyneux meme song is gone

can't find it any more

oh, here it is

https://youtu.be/V14urvko9mQ

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/294870219682217984/600845397568782366/1563320663913.png

https://youtu.be/zR38CtjD__o

@Great Britain The erosion fostered through capitalism is deliberate. Look up the pioneers of propaganda and the advertisement industry. They deliberately work to subvert natural identity and replace it with brandings.

Without these advertisers, and without the assumption that all peoples are basically interchangeable, there wouldn't be nearly so much of a corrosive impact.

There has been a systematic disintegration of the pillars of nation, and commerce is simply *one of* the tools.

There's also education, and entertainment, as well as finance, and immigration.

Feminism was a big component of it as well.

Destroying the complimentary dynamic and division of sexual duties.

These duties are essential to sustaining a people as a nation.

There was a great quote, which I can't now remember in entirety, or the source, but basically it concerns "queering capitalism" and it has to do specifically with this agenda

It's why they push non-reproductive sex so hard. If sex is simply a ritual for pleasure, that detaches it from its relation to family, and progeny.

It's obscenely easy to market brands to atomized, hedonistic adult children. And so much of the emphasis is on cultivating this state in a population. In fact, once they've divorced preference from nation and family, and relegated it strictly to pleasure, the only limitation on what can be sold is on whether or not they can hack people's experiences to make them feel good about buying something. It has no other practical utility.

No metric by which its efficacy can be judged.

People routinely vote for, approve of, and obey, murderers. Either don't know, refuse to know, or assume it somehow is going to benefit them. In fact, a major selling point of governments is for immoral things to be done to your benefit, without actually having to exercise the will to get them done yourself, or undergo the psychological ramifications of having been personally involved in them.

People like to envision themselves as moral, but they also like benefiting from violence and aggression. So, they delegate the operation of this violence to others, and concoct some justification for how this somehow makes it moral.

Chiraq

Antifa literally have like, an army of fucking crook ass lawyers on their side

and a bunch of city officials

all over the country

you'd pretty much have to do a root canal of the whole legal and political system to really fix that shit

https://youtu.be/ZOtinTlx7yo

Tim Pool even released a video a year or so back, contemplating this transition. He knows that's how the monetization works, and it was actually a pretty big gripe of his, because he believes the long form, heavily researched videos are more important, but he needs to live off this to keep doing it, so he set up a second channel for his Opinion Piece content.

the neocons don't want it

that takes valuable resources away from building greater israel in the middle east

and deprives their cronies of suppressed labor costs

they don't actively bitch about it, they just drag their feet on it

because they know this is something their constituents care about, but as neocons, it doesn't fit their objectives to actually provide it

the dems are way more brazen and open with it, yes

https://youtu.be/JxQamW6Vo4U

@Jokerfaic The Roy Moore thing I to an extent understand, due to the whole fundamentalism thing, but Louie Gohmert? Seems to just be a conservative from what I've read on wiki. Like, an actual one, instead of a pretend one. Admittedly the wiki has a fairly shallow and brief presentation of his activities.

oh, nm, I see why we shouldn't trust him now

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ca/Louie_Gohmert_and_Ben_Shapiro.jpg

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

@Jokerfaic >Secular Talk

https://puu.sh/DXUNf/e426cabec2.png

muh sacred democracy

If you're not prepared to remove the enemies of your people, you soon won't have a people to protect.

You want to know who is respecting the vote? People who are losing.

The left understand it's a farce. It only serves their interests to support it if it turns out in their favor. And the main reason they're crumbling now is because their objective was literal cancer. If they hadn't had such a hairbrained idea of what to do with the power once they had it, there wouldn't even be a challenge to them right now.

ikr

this is politics, it's never been about doing what's right, it's about doing what you can get away with

and why should we expect anything else, when the culture and values of the nation have disintegrated so far?

LOL

they've been refusing to do their job for decades

and the american people have been refusing to do *theirs*

by allowing this bullshit to continue

no

water the tree

https://images.theabcdn.com/i/34146843

they don't have to agree

if that's what's necessary

the longer a nation persists, the more likely this becomes

because people are loathe to use small dramatic measures in a timely matter, they must resort to more extreme measures far too late

and it makes a big mess of everything

Right now, everyone is just in a kind of holding pattern. Things haven't gotten bad enough yet. They're still too comfortable, there's too much to lose. But they're already losing. Inch by Inch.

Most people won't think to act until they're right on the cliff edge, staring down into the crags and surf.

>agreeing
as if there was ever a challenge or removal of tyrants with anything even approaching a total consensus

https://youtu.be/fFW0r3tYeko

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