I'd allow most vices and immoral behaviors, but I'd keep them contained to physical places that are out of the way and licensed

So brothels where people can buy what they like and use it, or whatever

There's always been brothels

even in the middle ages

and they were legal, but clearly marked out

The idea is that you steal the underground market by licensing a select number of higher class establishments

Well let me explain here

You don't get it

Sometimes to have less prostitution, you have to have a small amount that's legal and controlled

that way you can steal the market from the underground people

Well I'll explain it

If you ban it completely, it'll happen under your nose and you won't be able to control it. You don't get to control where it is or who gets to it.

If you permit some out of the way establishments to operate, with licenses and regulation, people can do their things out of the way and not expose kids to it.

And you'll actually have less

Some things are worth banning, and other things aren't worth it.

When we banned liquor that didn't work

banning prostitution didn't work

I want less prostitution

So if you can get less prostitution, and control the remainder why not do that?

Instead of banning it for a point

Because prostitution is different from murder and theft

It's sex for cash. It's victimless crime. It's not healthy for society, but if you can control it and limit it to out of the way establishments, all the better

You're being facetious.

I'm not pro prostitution

I'm saying it's ineffective to ban it outright unless you want to execute anyone who engages in it

which wouldn't be justifiable

No it's not lol

I'm saying I want less people doing it, and you actually might get more if you ban it outright

And you can't control where it goes

If you license specific brothels like what happened in the middle ages, you can contain it so it doesnt infect children and the rest of society

In theory

But it hasn't worked in practice

Uh

the US has always had whores

when they've been legal and illegal

Okay but is punishing all whores worth having potentially more of it?

Of course you'll punish the illegal whores lol

but you allow certain contained brothels

out of the way

no flashy signs

No bullshit on TV or the radio

no street whores

Okay

NYC

LA

Literally every major american city

we lock up tons of whores

doesnt do a damn thing to it

When instead

We could contain it to specific locations, get tax money for it, draw the business away from illegal corner whores, and get less prostitution overall

Well history proves you otherwise

The time in history when even Aquinas said that the "Light of God" shined through society, realized that it's beneficial to have specific licensed brothels instead of uncontrolled underground whores

Aquinas didn't specifically talk about this issue

But we're talking about a time when society was healthy

and you want to emulate the society that's not

Besides, we've tried your method

It hasn't worked

Also if you license certain brothels, you can justify punishing the illegal ones harder

They're not scared of being arrested

that doesn't work

They have to be put out of business

And you do that by permitting better alternatives

Nobody's gonna take Crack whore sally when they can go to a safe place if they're so inclined

Yeah

Uh

It's unethical to just kill people for having sex

That's a good way to start outrage

You'd rather say you're doing something about it, and have more of it happen.

I'd rather decrease the numbers

People will revolt after a certain point

You can't just kill people for crimes that don't warrant the death penalty

It'll look bad

Also I'll add that if you license certain brothels, you can keep track of which women are whoring themselves out.

That's useful

If you make it illegal there is no control

I think we do arrest pimps

And whores

and johns

Trust me

I'd ban prostitution if it was more effective than permitting a little of it, but it's not

Yeah and you can control the number

You don't just let anyone start a brothel

I believe prostitution is bad, but like he said

you can't wipe it out

It will always exist

You're being too simple

If you believe it's bad, you want to reduce it

And if you can reduce it more effectively by allowing a small legal amount of it

You can deter it

but prostitution just is very hard to get rid of

Besides it's not killing anyone. It's a victimless crime. It only becomes a big issue when society is saturated with sex.

There's been whores since the beginning of civilization. The Sexual revolution is a new thing

So you'd say that punishing a few is worth having more of it?

I want less prostitution, and I want controlled prostitution. I don't give a rat's ass if I get to lock someone up for it.

I'd rather have less than more, but I get to parade some girl around and say "I got her folks!"

It doesn't directly hurt individuals

But it hurts society

I'm not saying we legalize prostitution lol. I'm saying we restrict it to certain licensed brothels, of which the state can decide the details of

In theory. But for some reason just saying "Lock em up" hasn't worked with sex work

No you idiot