By the criteria of evidence....

You have to dive into epistemology.

Gnosticism deals with knowledge lol

They think they can know

Well, I identify as an agnostic.

I'm not sure why people assume we can know anything about "spiritual" matters when there's still epistemic claims we don't know about the materialistic world we see.

We function under empiricism/rationalism so of course we can't "know" because we acquire knowledge through our senses and reason.

Because of inductive reasoning... lol

Probably so we are ignorant apes (literally).

They'll probably find your Discord and are spying on you right now.

During the Obama administration it was discovered that they were spying on our phone calls and text messages.

Yeah, it's all unconstitutional.

It's 👏 against 👏 the 👏 law 👏

Ehhh

the Constitution should be revamped

like the fifth amendment

where the government can steal your property and call it "eminent domain"

If it's not true why believe in it.

"good morals" lol

Dude most pastors already have multiple divorces

the members get drunk on the weekend and watch porn

ask them yourself

I agree but Christians are supposed to live to a better standard according to their holy book.

Catholicism reforms based on the people.

My profile picture makes it obvious...

it's not an anime girl lmfao

You have to realize how morally bankrupt Christians are though.

They justify eternal damnation, eternal torment for people who merely don't believe in their deity.

religion

My theory on the existence of Jesus comes from the fact that people usually attributed divine attributes to moral leaders in that time era.

Obviously he's dead and they stole his body and made a religion out of his sayings and deluded themselves into thinking he existed.

That could be part of it.

Christianity is so contradictory though.

I don't understand how anyone could read the books and have a coherent viewpoint unless you cherry pick.

It's apart of the cult.

Question and you go to hell. Doubt is a sin, don't doubt, God works in mysterious ways!

Children are taught this, and then these children turn into adults and they don't put the two and two that it's just a myth like Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny because the community around them validates their belief weekly.

They cherry pick interpretation.

They'll say one verse is literal, one is metaphorical, one is symbolic, one is hyperbole and condemn others as heretics and wrong who don't interpret it the same way. Which is why we have thousands of denominations and ways of seeing Christianity, with each pointing to each other saying you're wrong and going to hell, and I'm right. It's so childish, and the fact anyone could claim to be moral and be okay with someone burning forever and experiencing pain forever is absurd.

It controls them into not critically thinking and not exploring the universe scientifically.

If you interpret it non-literally.

Which I think arises in a simple problem, if you can interpret where you come from as non-literal, you can interpret the resurrection claims as non-literal and then you don't really have Christianity.

I agree.

Deism is more coherent.

yes

You can interpret it non-literally, Gnostics do.

It can, and it is interpreted in many other ways.

Really? Would you mind proving that there's only one way a contradictory work of fiction can be interpreted?

I know Christianity isn't true.

There isn't a way to interpret it correctly because its claims are false.

Tell me how you know that and if you can prove that.

Can we know their intent?

Not every.

I told you Gnosticism doesn't believe in a literalistic interpretation of Jesus Christ.

How do you know?

Isn't that just fallacious?

It makes no sense, therefore it's false.

It's very hard with fictional religious texts.

If you and I have two different interpretations of an ancient text, how do we know which one of us is right?

There's thousands of ways to interpret any given religious text.

So which interpretation is right? Which denomination.

“A thing which everybody is required to believe, requires that the proof and evidence of it should be equal to all, and universal; and as the public visibility of this last related act was the only evidence that could give sanction to the former part, the whole of it falls to the ground, because that evidence never was given. Instead of this, a small number of persons, not more than eight or nine, are introduced as proxies for the whole world, to say they saw it, and all the rest of the world are called upon to believe it. But it appears that Thomas did not believe the resurrection; and, as they say, would not believe without having ocular and manual demonstration himself. So neither will I; and the reason is equally as good for me, and for every other person, as for Thomas."
"When also I am told that a woman, called the Virgin Mary, said, or gave out, that she was with child without any cohabitation with a man, and that her betrothed husband, Joseph, said that an angel told him so, I have a right to believe them or not: such a circumstance required a much stronger evidence than their bare word for it: but we have not even this for neither Joseph nor Mary wrote any such matter themselves. It is only reported by others that they said so. It is hearsay upon hearsay, and I do not chose to rest my belief upon such evidence.”

Excerpt From: Paine, Thomas. “The Age of Reason"

She should've studied more lol

lmao

Not every woman has children.

Sure, there's children who need adopted.

Asian babies. 😊

what server is it

Do you guys also identify as the alt-right?

I know but it seems like a lot of people are apart of that here.

Better hope the SJW's don't find out about your server 😬

The Right Server got shut down for a while.

Trump is bad

I'd rather him get impeached and deal with Pence.

Okay but who is the lesser of two retards?

The guy who flirts with the leader of North Korea, allies with Saudi Arabia, and has a temper like your average female... or some old guy who is a Christian and wants to be a raging closeted homosexual focused on Israel the entire time...

North Korea is still making weapons

They haven't denuclearized lmfao

Uh, when they threatened to nuke us that's kinda a big deal

We should stop allying with Saudi Arabia though

We white knight Israel because the Republican base is filled with Christians

who think Israel plays into prophecy of the return of their sky daddy

they worship a Jew yeah

We shouldn't ally with any country in the Middle East

how about no

let's not get involved with destroying countries unless they actually can harm us

Jews are fine lol

have you taken an ancestry test?

yeah but i'm saying that you're not 100% cause you do probably originate from from other country at one point

like technically

hispanics are mostly catholic and liberal though

strawman but ok

he was concerned about it

ok so how would you deal with people who are mixed

in your Utopia

why should they if they're part white

biologically

you guys are the minority and won't ever get this lol

and most people in history were idiots

ignorance