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2018-07-17 22:14:12 UTC [Subverse #general]  

well I meant flamboyantly gay.

2018-07-17 22:14:49 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Not many out there

2018-07-17 22:15:10 UTC [Subverse #general]  

cept hollywood

2018-07-17 22:15:38 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I would say depends more on personality

2018-07-17 22:17:25 UTC [Subverse #general]  

The left sure likes to make judgements based on appearance :/

2018-07-17 22:18:33 UTC [Subverse #general]  

ya that's crazy

2018-07-17 22:19:37 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Well round trips means just as much climb as descent though

2018-07-17 22:22:19 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I like walking a lot too

2018-07-17 22:22:31 UTC [Subverse #general]  

oof

2018-07-17 22:38:24 UTC [Subverse #general]  

timcast new vid

2018-07-17 22:38:25 UTC [Subverse #general]  

oof

2018-07-17 22:39:16 UTC [Subverse #general]  

newest in timcast feed

2018-07-17 22:48:49 UTC [Subverse #general]  

wat?

2018-07-17 22:53:27 UTC [Subverse #general]  

well what was suggested would be take from the poor

2018-07-17 22:53:43 UTC [Subverse #general]  

" take everyone who works 2 jobs and take one of those jobs away and give it to another person"

2018-07-17 22:54:40 UTC [Subverse #general]  

tbf not everyone in NK thinks it is normal

2018-07-17 22:55:19 UTC [Subverse #general]  

@Thirg well what you said would technically lower unemployment

2018-07-17 22:55:30 UTC [Subverse #general]  

But the logic she was using was under different context

2018-07-17 22:56:36 UTC [Subverse #general]  

course looking at that, there are more jobs available than are people unemployed

2018-07-17 22:57:33 UTC [Subverse #general]  

The logic you are using would be something valid to look at though, but Cortez was saying that people are working 80 hours and cant feed their kids

2018-07-17 22:57:54 UTC [Subverse #general]  

suggesting that she thinks that people are necessarily working 2 jobs

2018-07-17 22:59:31 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Someone should ask her about supply vs demand

2018-07-17 23:00:31 UTC [Subverse #general]  

A lot of things lie somewhere between art and science

2018-07-17 23:00:59 UTC [Subverse #general]  

If you throw out the art or science aspect you run into trouble

2018-07-17 23:01:35 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Boom Bust Boom was correct

2018-07-17 23:02:43 UTC [Subverse #general]  

still have not taken econ yet

2018-07-17 23:02:55 UTC [Subverse #general]  

pretty straight forward stuff though

2018-07-17 23:03:46 UTC [Subverse #general]  

if taken with a grain of salt

2018-07-17 23:04:01 UTC [Subverse #general]  

the green brothers have a channel

2018-07-17 23:05:32 UTC [Subverse #general]  

terminology and what not

2018-07-17 23:24:57 UTC [Subverse #general]  

is it though

2018-07-17 23:25:00 UTC [Subverse #general]  

those places are warm

2018-07-18 01:56:19 UTC [Subverse #general]  

So what you are saying is Obama is now alt-right?

2018-07-18 01:58:42 UTC [Subverse #general]  

By today's standards it is hard to be left of Centre right

2018-07-18 02:02:04 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Obama is also a big talker though. He has made a lot of promises only to never to bring up the subject again.

2018-07-18 02:02:44 UTC [Subverse #general]  

For sure the right is the liberal side now

2018-07-18 02:03:31 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Funny that conservatives and liberals are on the same team

2018-07-18 02:04:38 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Well left and right originally just came from the 2 majorities in an old for m of congress

2018-07-18 02:04:52 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Not socialism vs capitalism

2018-07-18 02:06:55 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Democracy 3?

2018-07-18 02:07:07 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Nvm

2018-07-18 02:08:28 UTC [Subverse #general]  

But for real though, gay marriage becoming universal accepted has been one of the worst things for the left as far as membership

2018-07-18 02:08:42 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Many on the left are there for one issue

2018-07-18 02:10:43 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Conservative and liberal gets mixed up with left and right I feel like

2018-07-18 02:56:13 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I've never felt the need to drink too much

2018-07-18 03:25:54 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Well, Fox will be Disney anyway

2018-07-18 03:38:40 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Skull candies are great

2018-07-18 04:59:41 UTC [Subverse #general]  

kinda interesting

2018-07-18 05:02:58 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Others have described it as an offshoot of the alt-right, in that it claims to reject identity politics

2018-07-18 05:03:08 UTC [Subverse #general]  

part of the page

2018-07-18 05:04:33 UTC [Subverse #general]  

" As with the alt-right, the alt-lite commonly shows broad support for Donald Trump, criticism of and/or opposition to political correctness, Islam, feminism, welfare and illegal immigration. "

2018-07-18 05:04:54 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Calls it a movement, and still a variation of conservatism

2018-07-18 05:05:23 UTC [Subverse #general]  

at this point it is basically implied that alt right are those things

2018-07-18 05:05:47 UTC [Subverse #general]  

alt-lite is called like the alt-right minus the identity politics

2018-07-18 05:07:31 UTC [Subverse #general]  

To paraphrase Jordan Peterson, the rights red line for extremism is when it vies for ethnic based policy and standards

2018-07-18 05:31:43 UTC [Subverse #general]  

30% can be a lot of things to disagree with though

2018-07-18 05:32:24 UTC [Subverse #general]  

And another problem with labels is that you can find yourself subconsciously thinking what would my label do

2018-07-18 05:39:44 UTC [Subverse #general]  

The problem for me i guess specifically is that I don't totally line up all that well

2018-07-18 05:40:23 UTC [Subverse #general]  

If I have to say that I support someone it is better that i mention multiple people to show that I am somewhere in between these people

2018-07-18 05:41:04 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I wouldn't say well defined

2018-07-18 05:41:13 UTC [Subverse #general]  

other than centrist maybe

2018-07-18 05:41:17 UTC [Subverse #general]  

or independent

2018-07-18 05:46:15 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Well technically I guess the way this might work is that you look at many different values like in 8 values

2018-07-18 05:47:18 UTC [Subverse #general]  

And the values you feel more strongly for you might not need a label but if you lean that way greatly it surely kind of shows what you hold in high regard

2018-07-18 05:52:59 UTC [Subverse #general]  

It's just better to say that you are for certain values and beliefs unless you are close enough to something to be able to distinguish that you are something minus a couple of issues

2018-07-18 05:55:06 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Ya that Indian news bit is super fucked up

2018-07-18 05:56:17 UTC [Subverse #general]  

With 8 values even that feels largely not super accurate because it asks questions where it really depends

2018-07-18 05:57:20 UTC [Subverse #general]  

ya

2018-07-18 05:58:16 UTC [Subverse #general]  

some good company though

2018-07-18 05:58:50 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Scholars now tended to associate it with the theories of Mont Pelerin Society economists Friedrich Hayek, Milton Friedman and James M. Buchanan, along with politicians and policy-makers such as Margaret Thatcher, Ronald Reagan and Alan Greenspan

2018-07-18 06:00:49 UTC [Subverse #general]  

As far as wikipedia defines it

2018-07-18 06:01:38 UTC [Subverse #general]  

English-speakers have used the term "neoliberalism" since the start of the 20th century with different meanings,

2018-07-18 06:01:51 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Wikipedia is amazing

2018-07-18 06:03:22 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I think what 8 values is using is what wikipedia would describe as far as neoliberalism

2018-07-18 06:03:58 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I haven't seen much evidence of wikipedia being false and misleading to a significant degree

2018-07-18 06:08:16 UTC [Subverse #general]  

not finding any issues here

2018-07-18 06:19:11 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Let me put it this way, how much of wikipedia would you say is reliable?

2018-07-18 06:21:09 UTC [Subverse #general]  

On politics would an encyclopedia be better?

2018-07-18 06:27:18 UTC [Subverse #general]  

The number of revisions required to start showing this effect, however, is quite largeโ€”at least 2,000 editsโ€”and the articles most read by users aren't necessarily those most revised by editors. "To some extent, we are not seeing the scenario where too many cooks spoil the broth, we are mostly seeing an insufficient number of cooks," says Zhu.

If Wikipedia would like to improve its objectivity, Zhu recommends that it encourage editors to revise the most-read stories first, as well as encouraging people with different political leanings to edit the same article.

2018-07-18 06:30:03 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Certainly sounds interesting

2018-07-18 06:34:18 UTC [Subverse #general]  

@pratel I am not saying that Wikipedia is perfect or doesn't have controversy, there might be truth to those things but I can't take I've been told at face value if I am honest though, but I will consider those things. I just mostly go based off of what I can get out of wikipedia, and I feel that I come out of wikipedia better informed, and provided with links to similar topics that I had not considered.

2018-07-18 06:35:15 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Would be good to find an artist interested in making a concept mock up to see if an end product would be something worth pursuing

2018-07-18 06:36:05 UTC [Subverse #general]  

or also doing things barebones having just the main goals ready to see if it practically is as good produced as concepted

2018-07-18 06:44:26 UTC [Subverse #general]  

@pratel I don't assume any source is outright accurate

2018-07-18 06:45:18 UTC [Subverse #general]  

@pratel I just think it gets underused because people think that it is mostly inaccurate

2018-07-18 06:46:09 UTC [Subverse #general]  

We were discussing alt-lite earlier

2018-07-18 06:46:39 UTC [Subverse #general]  

it may have been used that way just like liberal or conservative

2018-07-18 06:47:03 UTC [Subverse #general]  

some accept it to be alt-right minus the identity politics

2018-07-18 06:51:23 UTC [Subverse #general]  

"In addition even though the Alt Lite and Al Right labels serve a function on a political classification level I would still urge one to be cautious about overusing these descriptors as they may cloud some key differences between individuals falling under the respective umbrellas."

2018-07-18 06:52:57 UTC [Subverse #general]  

There is interesting discourse because many who are "alt-lite" are called alt-right

2018-07-18 06:53:59 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I wouldn't necessarily use alt-lite as a over encompassing grouping though

2018-07-18 06:54:19 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Ya

2018-07-18 06:54:25 UTC [Subverse #general]  

right?

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