Yes

Sending a fake letter to the american government aint that hard

And everyone telling them to quit being retards

We wouldn't have noticed it is fake you think?

The Germans wouldn't be like, oh, we didn't do that, or just attack your trade ships

Wilson wanted to get involved. It was getting America on his side that was the hard part

Risk of a assult on american soil? Why pass up the opportunity?

And the Germans never denied they did it

Even if its questionable

Idk. Its just a fun thing to think about

I have no proof

They would look more like victims if they came out and said "WTF honorless Brits tricked you."

American public would have demanded we side with them

Since most wanted to already

okay a fun thing to think about is taking the presupposition and finding if its true or not

so you must seek proof or disproof

But no, German retards had to actually attack us and goad the Mexicans into scheming.

Aye, i still have to read up on the Mexican-American war

Both sides were retarded but it probably made sense at the time.

thats a statement for the ages

Yeah Mexicans did not wanna fight us again lol

They only won battles where we were unprepared, then broke their asses

And never recovered.

die beantanks

America and Russia were the only countries that had any idea how to fight WWI.

why no Britain?

they pioneered the tenk

The others could have quickly figured it out if they didn't only put arrogant assholes in charge

The tank was pretty dumb until it worked. Which took a while.

you have a way with words

but it scared the living shit out of people

They kept investing in what, by all accounts, was a retarded idea.

it took awhile just for the germans to realize how easy they were to avoid or kill

If the tanks were better it would have been great but they kinda sucked

the WWI tanks absolutely did suck

How many just tipped over?

breathing poison gas and shit

Lol yeah

Thats great

but they have saved hundreds of thousands if not millions of lives

Stuck in a tuna can breathing mustardgas and flamethrowers

that is bad design

Everything starts as a bad design

True but it was a complete accident that it was a good idea. Not genius. They literally were like, "Wut if we did this, maybe Germans run away and... We win!"

i have very little interest in WWI tanks just because there isnt one I would want to drive around on my farm if i could afford to buy and maintain one

It worked for completely different reasons.

hey, its not so foolish to aim for surrender

They looked kinda cool to the infantry was the big selling point

I just cannot accept anyone giving credit to the Euros for their retarded fucking wars.

I mean. Having a moving metal box with Machine gunners on the inside is better then not having a moving metal box

On principle

ill give credit to anyone if they pioneer something cool

People think Americans are the warmongers

Okay how about the gun with the periscope barrel

we have the best military because we DONT like to fight

We aren't, we just fight smart.

Europeans and Asias and Arrabs and Africas, always fighting

Let the squads mostly do what they think is best in the situation and give more autonomy to localized command

I remember a speech by Taft that basically summed up the American attitude to war.

Plans don't work, fuck up then do better. That is our attitude. Like the Romans,

I can post it. Nice speech. A bit more... Utopian in its vision then is necessarily realistic

Germans and Russia both despaired at our lack of any standard operating procedure, and unwilingness to adhere to what procedures we did have.

They could not reliably predict what the fuck we would do

That is our strength

"If there is one universal truth about fighting the American doctrine, its that the Americans have no doctrine."

Butchered the quote lol

There it is

but thats not true

Exactly. Do shit, if it works, do it more. When it stops working try other shit.

Americans are very smart when it comes to war

I mean yes it is kind of a meme

But it stems from reality. We do have doctrines. But we give more autonomy to our soldiers.

we throw curves

It's a philosophy developed in the Civil war to give a general idea of a goal to your on the field commanders and let them figure out how to accomplish it.

More freedom to soldiers gives them incentive to perform

Instead of bureaucracy

Right we plan stuff then tell people to do it and they then decide what the actual smart plan is

This is part of the reason why Lee did so well at the start. When he tells Jackson to hold Shenandoah Valley, he never gives any mention to how

Armchair generals feel important and don't fuck everything up, both sides are happy

So Jackson pulls off one of the greatest victorys in the war

And his own men kill him by accident. Lol

Fuck really?

I didnt know that

it would suck to die because your boss hundreds of miles away 3 days ago did not consider that there might be a guy standing over here where he didnt expect a guy to be

Yeah he was headed back into his lines at night

They ambushed him thinking they were enemies

no shit

Man. My man Jackson over here is probably clinically autistic. His eccentricitys were off the charts

<:oof:494878589406150657>

<:GWqlabsRIP:398950660147642368>

It was pretty standard to attack anyone using a road at night to be fair

sure

that suggs tho

He died a couple weeks later at home from the infection, he survived the actual shooting

Imagine being the guy that killed your hero

Dude either died or ran away I'm sure

big oof

Wasn't their fault to be fair, it is what Jackson taught them to do lol

He was so sucessful thwt only his own tactics and orders could kill him