Lack of interest/care in anything including your eternal soul

Their lives are actually so miserable that even an eternity in Hell does not scare them

And that's how you know the devil has taken over America

I got told by someone at my church that they've never seen someone as dedicated to their salvation as I am, doing all this side study

And this guy grew up in the religion

Some people don't manage to absorb much despite living in it

It doesn't help that society says religion is anti-fun

Young people think it's cool to be careless

I'm getting the impression that people who grow up in a religion usually have no gnosis, just understanding that they have to repeat the party line

My religion is not anti fun

Very few are

You Christians have Puritanism and Calvinism in your past

But the Jews on tv create reality for most people

I'm not that kind of Christian

But you are a protestant right? You will be thrown in that bucket by anyone even slightly non receptive

There is a lot of puritanism in protestantism today still, especially (((baptists)))

No I am not a protestant

Baptists are Salem witch hunt retards

What are you, catholic? Orthodox?

Unaffiliated?

Unaffiliated is probably the closest

Or "literalist" something like that

Some guy who read the book and believed

I believe that black people are animals and jews are stans children

Adam was made from dirt

Eve was made from adams rib

Etc

I believe these to be real events, not metaphors

So you believe genesis when it said God walked around in the garden, sewed their coats of skins, yelled over the wall to communicate with Adam, etc

I.e. that God has a physical existence

Yeah I think God can be physical if he wants to

I mean he's God

He can probably do literally anything

I don't completely subscribe to any one translation, I like to review it in several,translations

Details change, but God having a physical interaction with the world is consistent

Normal Christians for some reason believe Jesus lost his resurrected body when he went to heaven

not taking the bait

And believe that the father is the son even though visions of heaven show the father with the son at his right hand

They have all kinds of goofy catholic ideas

Americans aren't intelligent enough to understand the trinity thing

The trinity is fake

HOW CAN HE IS THREE BUT ONE.?

Catholics made it up

how is the burden of proof not on christians for this

I think there is the Father (God), the Son (Jesus) and the Holy Spirit

Those are in the book yes

I don't really have an opinion on them being the same "trinity"

But I understand the concept, which most people don't

can u explain how the trinity works? i wasn't really raised super christian

not sarcasm

Jesus prayed to the father, the father spoke from heaven saying to accept him, the holy ghost fell on him, they are separate

Anything saying they overlap is made up by Catholics

Allegedly, God Jesus and the spirit are all God, but also separate bodies at the same time

They say you will go to hell unless you intentionally misread the book

interesting

Plot twist: they are all gods

what's the significance of the trinity?

There isn't really a strong reason to read the Trinity into the text unless you're trying to justify adding the Pope

And mother mary

what do you mean

read it into the text

It's basically an excuse for them to say that an old fat man is god

Which is heresy, obviously

oh

so they have to shoehorn the pope in there as god

Read it into the text, as in intentionally interpreting it thst way

but you believe in the trinity, right?

I don't really have an opinion on it

I believe three separate entities exist

I accept certain aspects as religious mysteries

well i mean

I think the trinity is catholic fanfiction

with everything else in the bible, it's not too hard to add a trinity to the mix

Well yeah then why not add goku to the mix too?

Jesus definitely interacts with God in a way that suggests they are not the same being

Though, they are divine, so who knows I guess

well goku isn't the savior

right?

maybe a few Harry potter characters would also be good additions

i think it's actually kind of a pleasing/interesting idea

its p abstract

I mean if we are just going to make shit up what is the point of even having revealed religion

Catholics will replace leviticus with the goblet of fire

its all nonsense anyway

i mean

i shouldnt say nonsense

but

You don't believe it, it's okay to say it

if you're going to take some of the bible at its word, i dont see what problems some of these technicalities cause

well i said nonsense but i just meant not necessarily accurate recollections of events

I think ooze turning into fish that turn into monkeys that turn into people is actually far less believable than a powerful cosmic wizard

neither of those are reasonable interpretations of the very complex ideas they represent

i dont think the bible is nonsense

How did the big bang happen is my main problem

I disagree with, but understand evolution

An idea making sense to a person is predicated on it agreeing with their understanding of how the world works

The big bang is a fallacy

how is the big bang a fallacy

like deux ex machina?

We wuz chemicals in space

How did the chemicals,get@there?

In a formless universe, why would there be a chemical reaction of any kind?

that same tautology works with religious explanations

there's a god? well then who made him?

Mormons have an answer to that

Religion accepts that God is cosmic

how many answers, though?

i'm not familiar with it

One

A cosmic wizard who doesn't follow the rules of reality

yeah its definitely possible

but to come to that conclusion from the evidence presented in your lifetime

God was created by a prior God, and that God by a prior God in endless succession

thats not really an answer though is it?

We openly do not know where it started

at least not to the satisfaction of anyone who would ask the question

Time doesn't have to work exactly the way we understand it

for sure

Further, we believe creation involved only organization of preexisting matter with no idea at all where the matter came from

I accept that "god time" is beyond human comprehension

i dont disagree

what i'm asking is, how does any of this make you reach god as a solution?

When I read the Bible it seems true

how?

It just does, like on an internal level

Kind of like remembering something

Like you already knew it

interesting

When I read the muslim bible, i can feel its power, but it doesnt seem as true

When i read the big bang theory, it just seems false

when i watch the big bang theory it seems false

"We can explain everything with science, except we can't explain anything"

anyone that says they can explain everything with science is a big dope

What they really mean is that a science priest can tell you what to think

Scientists are priests

lol

They even wear robes

Get paid extra

Etc

The dinosaur theory is my favorite

lmao

you're blowin my mind here

There were 5 meter tall lizards running around eating each other until a meteor killed **all of them** and then nobody found their bones for 60 million years including 6,000 years of recorded human history

We believe this because we are told so

is that true?

And we see Barney, land before time, etc

Of course it's not true

no i mean

Jews are trying to normalize the serpentine imagine of their father

the part about dinosaur bones were never discovered for 6000 years

Yes

No one has ever found an intact dino skeleton today

They find piles of dust and "reconstruct" it

so what are all the bones made of ??

They're just mammoth bones and shit

the skulls all look very different

Those are "reconstructions"

but you can't exactly mill down a mammoth skull to look like a brontosaurus skull

Look at dino archeology finds

They literally take crumbled chunks of glorified dust

And clay it up

no way

They do

It's the most obvious hoax except for sandy hook

i mean, you could, but the sheer amount of skulls out there that would have to go uninspected, unverified, unshared for decades/millenia

passing as real skulls

There is millenia

Dinosaur theory is less than one millenia old

fair enough

No Medieval people were walking around saying

Wow, remember the castle sized lizards?

what i'm saying is let's say there's 10,000 dinosaur skulls out there

It's an industrial fantasy

Created by Jews to glorify the reptile

surely some of those skulls were verified by many parties

People do what they are told

yes but to go hundreds of years without a single whistleblower

Barely

Maybe like 200

If that

And there are whistleblowers

Dino hoax is well known

Most obvious hoaxes in order Sandy Hook > Dinosaurs > Holocaust > 9/11 muslims

what whistleblower

What do they all have in common? They all benefit Jews

Just google "dinosaurs are fake" theres scientists who speak against it

are you gonna tell me now the jews own the banks and hollywood and wall street and academic institutions?

Yes

okay bad example

:))))

i feel like i'm going to get put on a special list for googling dinosaurs are fake

I've said much worse things than that

ZOG hasn't come after me

im not seeing anything

these are all very pro dinosuar

except this one says "13 crazy dinosaur conspiracy theories" or something

You gotta scroll down a nit

Past the jew websites

nothing

I will link you

Google does have region specific search

And who knows what else

true

jew filter

jewgle as i call them

I'm interested in anti dinosaur theory

This is news to me

it seems silly

Ah, i gave you the wrong search

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C9BKJA_enUS669US669&hl=en-US&ei=6H5mWraVBauI_QatmYnQDQ&q=dinosaurs+never+existed&oq=dinosaurs+never+&gs_l=mobile-gws-serp.1.0.0l5.18121.21050.0.22329.15.15.0.2.2.0.553.3406.0j7j5j0j1j1.14.0....0...1c.1.64.mobile-gws-serp..9.6.1235...0i67k1j0i131k1j0i20i263i264k1j0i20i263k1.107.hsEz2t9FtFo

Dinosaurs never existed is the right search

nothing here seems convincing

I've known they were fake all along

for example

http://gvenews.com/the-dinosaurs-never-existed-bones-and-fossils-manmade/

Because there were obviously not giant meat eating lizards

source links aren't there

"GIVE news" sounds equally credible as a lizard the size of my house not just dying of a heart attack as soon as it hatches

Dino theory predates the current understanding of cardiovascular things

all i'm saying is the existence of obviously unique bones (e.g. t-rex skull) proves that these lizards existed

I mean the Alien exists too

It was just a guy in a costume though

it was my cousin

You can create anything

And say

"These were buried but no one found them until me"

Where did this meteor land?

were you homeschooled?

No

did you ever do experiments in class?

I remember dissecting a couple things

i just remember a lot of note taking and procedure following

Of course

School is factory training

true

That's why there is a bell

well if you had this factory training for 16-20 years and then they brought you into the little room and told you dinosaurs aren't real

here sign this NDA

i think by now we would have had some whistleblowers

There have only been a couple of NSA whistleblowers and they employ thousands of people

it's been hundreds of years tho

It's been less than 200 IIRC

long time

and you never would have heard about a whistleblower until the mid 1900s anyway

and dinosaurs being fake would be probably just slightly more provocative

I think it's less provocative because the government isn't implicated by normie logic

Even an average 80 IQ nigger can see what's going on when it's literally the nsa that gets caught

i think if dinosaurs were proved to be fake, it would by far be the story of the century

Did you know that a black people organization forced us to change fhe IQ cutoff for legally retarded?

now you're changing the subject