found it

found

so that does seem a little vague, I don't know if it was some 1920s dietary theory

but the numbers will tell me what I need to know, as the blood tests haven't changed that much

Was it the same study or did you have a different version?

it was the same

so skimming this study, it doesn't include what I need to comment on the blood acidity of either man

I'm not sure what the acidity they are referring to was

actually I am going to deep read this since I haven't read this since I was an undergrad and I know a lot more now

interesting that they boil their meat instead of frying

do eskimos have to cook with whale oil?

like how do they even create fire?

I found that interesting too, since the charts seemed to show they were consuming high quantities of fat

I know all this clinical calorimetry stuff but I don't know how they actually cook the food lol

Maybe it was too hard to measure with oil

One of them requested frozen meat

yes

hardcore

raw paleo

It's some real cro-mags shit

Except the cro-mags were krishnas

lol

I like the part where Stefansson had a craving for sheep brain

imagine telling someone "man I'd kill for a bowl of sheep brain"

paleo raw foodism would be interesting to see

"sheep brain? what the fuck? how do you even cook it?" "why would you cook it?"

I don't think I've ever eaten brains

Probably would be a bit worried about prions

one issue I have with this diet applied to modern times is that it can be difficult to find untampered meat

neglecting how poorly the animal may be raised/fed and what hormones and other things it could've been exposed to, it's very common to inject meat with different brines and such

so you could eat a diet of all unsalted meat and get an assload of salt you never knew about

this is all more hardcore than my keto diets too, I eat a lot of vegetables with mine

Which meats get injected with brines?

chicken often

I know about added nitrates in pork curing and stuff

or even just pork production, not even curing

they tend to put food coloring in red meat

Steaks exposed to meat so they don't look dark

uh

to gas rather

meat exposed to meat

yeah

frot

You can see the steaks that haven't gotten so mcuh of it

they're the ones people won't buy

I don't really eat beef

yeah

fair enough

I read a review a while ago that looked at whether or not meat was associated with cancer risk, and it broke it down into many categories

in the end, smoked, cured and beef were the only that showed an increased risk

with the pollution in the oceans I hardly trust fish, and I've always intrinsically mistrusted pork, so that leaves me with a diet of mostly chicken and vegetables

I am mad as fuck that dalits managed to ruin the entire ocean

I think educated people helped a lot

ok, I found something to comment on re: acid-base

Support population growth, protest nuclear power plants so much they don't get upgarded, nek minnit fukushima

ok cool

so a lot of people make a lot of big talk about eating an alkaline diet or whatever, but in medicine we know that your lungs and kidneys work in unison to maintain your blood at the right pH

whatever they did to determine the meat was acidic must have been some kind of physical chemistry thing I am not familiar with, but when they discuss the renal function they explain that they had much more acidic urine on their diet

in other words unless a person has kidney disease, you should expect that on an acidic diet they would just piss the acid out, as that is one of the functions of kidneys

I feel like I need to research this acid-base dieting stuff from the mouths of the actual authors in the field

since the people who come tell me about it don't really know how acid base homeostasis works

Yeah, I'm a bit confused by it

I figure there's two possibilities, the authors don't know how it works either and it's all crap, or maybe the authors know something I don't and it's all more subtle

I'm not that familiar with bodily processes but I always assumed that homeostasis would account for it

The body adapting other processes to adjust the pH

Same as any of those regulatory loops

Akin to thermoregulation but with different processes

They sell overpriced alkaline water in the grocery store

hahaha

Like $4 for 1.5L

well yeah, that's another thing - let's say the real alkaline diet people know something, not only do their followers obviously not, but neither do the people selling products

I can just dump some NaOH in a bottle of tap water for like 1 cent

hot salty water is the true ambrosia

Most of these people, like I implied earlier, are total fad diet junkies

just as trivia, they used stupidly sensitive urine glucose tests

The researchers often kooks too

But not always

Oh?

when it said there was glucose in the urine here, I looked at the numbers. I had to convert units but it's something that wouldn't even show up on the test at a doctor's office

but in case you saw that and thought "oh, they're pissing sugar, they had diabetes," it was way below diabetic levels

overall this is 10/10 data quality for the 1920s

They had to restrict how medicare subsidizes thyroid function tests here because so many gullible people were demanding endless tests for things they don't really understand

Have you run into that autoimmune self-diagnosis syndrome?

hypochondria, or everyone thinking they have hashimoto's disease?

The latter

I haven't done much clinic work, mostly inpatient. I'm sure I will

muh thyroid

muh fibromyalgia

Hypochondria is too pejorative a term at this stage

It refers to making shit up instead of health anxiety

I go out of my way to use antiquated 1950s medical lingo

especially for psych stuff

Because it's pejorative? 😛

yes

and when presenting patients I never omit their race

Health anxiety tends to be experienced through strange unassailable psychosomatic phenomena whereas making shit up is different

Or so I noticed in a good friend of mine

He is extremely truthful but had weird aches and pains in his abdomen and he got worked up and thought he was gonna die. Went to a bunch of doctors but they couldn't find anything

Not at all the kind of dude to make stuff up, but something was wrong that couldn't be identified and may not have been there in a physical sense

Race is important