You can't "try" communism

lets try it 10 more times just incase

There is a transitional state of socialism

It is unattainable.. that it is it.. nothing else..

It failed because human nature, it failed because despotism, it failed because it wasn’t real, it failed because of outside forces, it failed etc etc

Which according to marxist theory, would eventually result in technology which allows for post-scarcity

"theory"

And free distribution of economic output

But again, human nature is merely a product of the environment

BUT THATS JUST A THEORY

its not possible, regardless what theory you follow

A socialist theory

Not an argument

insanity... whats the definition?

Humans lived under primitive communism for a long time

But it wasn’t real insanity

doing something the same thing several times expecting different results

exactly

humans suffered under the rule and law of cummunism

Could be worse

What "thing" are you talking about

At least it isn’t ancom

this is the rarest sight on reddit

https://gyazo.com/541e91e9a0fe7722dc5a3229c3a85ea5

I got shot but atleast i wasn't hanged

hung*

listen here fucko

Like a horse

stfu you fucking grammar communist

You have yet to counter-argue my point about human nature

i was just helping you

wasnt any ill intent

Just like how Lenin helped the kulaks

don't grammar shame me

right, my apologies, i am so very sorry

Apologizing is a commie act

commies

The jig is up nkvd

ever saying sorry

pick one

“I’m sorry for those dead Ukrainians but they have to know Stalin was state capitalism”

https://www.marxists.org/archive/fromm/works/1961/man/ch04.htm

yeah, sarcasm...it doesnt work very well with text..

Hunter-gatherer societies basically resembled communism

https://int.nyt.com/newsgraphics/elections/2016/assets/screenshots/president-leader-margin.png

But muh human nature

what do you mean you can't sense sarcasm through the internet

what are you a SMOOTH brain?

I wasnt being sincere

consider yourself

reported.

thot begone

okay so no arguments

gotcha

dont trip over your ego

did you guys get wolfenstein

Simply regurgitating the same thing you've heard

Leggo my ego

and there is no arguement...

I've already made my point

In response to your claim that "communism is impossible because of human nature"

Wolfen(((stein)))

You still haven't actually countered it

To whom are you directing that to?

Those of you making the human nature argument

i was only joking about the communism thing, i don't think we should try it

don't lynch me

It was a pretty fucking obvious joke

Only a dumb thot wouldn't understand that

*cough*

<:MonkaGiga:362975800146001921>

If communism is incompatible with "human nature", then how did hunter-gatherer societies operate under this system for thousands of years?

because their iq was 60

k

Apparently low IQ means you don't have human nature

ye

scarcity wasn't an issue

What do you mean it wasn't an issue

>be communist
>die

<:pepespecial:356316713429499905>

https://youtu.be/voA9_jysAbw?t=17m12s

Watch it guys

holy shit lmao

>be communist
>not starve
>still starve because youre communist

>be communist

it is jizzfeed but dont worry it is funny af

https://youtu.be/voA9_jysAbw?t=17m12s

>at all

>be capitalist
>have no arguments

<:ThinkStare:368944946725519371>

>not starve

How the fuck was there no scarcity in hunter-gatherer societies

>don’t need to revert to a primordial lifestyle to prove a point

>be communist

>

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_famine_of_1932%E2%80%9333

But it wasn’t real my doods

That's what happens when people burn their crops and kill livestock, coupled with rapid industrialization and wars

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y59_AMv0-gI

PROOF?

Proof of what?

The famine in Ukraine?

PROOF?!

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-eTgjCs2lzpNExnSEVhMjBLRlE/view

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-eTgjCs2lzpQllPVzQ2UFd3aWM/view

PROOF?

no proof didn't happen

"famines weren't man made fam"

"famines are natural fam"

Oh shoot people are having a serious discussion

proof?

The debate is about if it was a genocide or not

@olev What was

The famine in Ukraine

how can it be genocide if it didn't happen

I'm not saying there wasn't a famine

I'm saying it was not a deliberate genocide

but there was

are you denying a genocide?

wew

It wasn't a genocide

<:MonkaGiga:362975800146001921>

guys i am quite the normie, is dank good or bad?

so which was it

>be communist
>starve

>be communist
>die

Zastava did you say proof when I said there was a serious discussion in vc?

no

It's a similar situation in China

Ok good

Apparently mao just woke up one day and thought

"i'm gonna kill 70 million ni🅱🅱as"

except that's literally what he did tho

@trent hey trent

hey mate

i think it was more

It was caused by famines

But the number is inflated

https://monthlyreview.org/commentary/did-mao-really-kill-millions-in-the-great-leap-forward/

https://www.quora.com/How-did-Mao-manage-to-kill-78-million-people/answer/Godfree-Roberts

Potato Famine

"i'm gonna implement one of the most autistic political systems known to man and then starve millions of people"

<:HyperThinking:356316737588690944>

-mao

Isn’t that the Chinese leader who ruled China for decades

the commie yeah

>go to the wikipedia page for the holodomor
>relief: *foreign relief rejected by the state*

the soviets really cared for their citizens

:^)

Wikipedia nah bro

he made food illegal and everyone died

https://youtu.be/Kot87AIavY4

"famine was just natural don't question anything look at my google doc pdf's goy"

I didn't say it was naturally caused

so you admit it was mao's fault

Mao was a weird leader

Poor management could have played a part

But the idea that they all just thought

"im gonna like, kill millions of people and shit"

Is retarded

If he didn't mean to starve all those people its ok then

case closed folks

he did it on accident

it wasn't his fault mane

he dindu nuffin

Nice strawmans

he was a good boy

it wasn't genocide it was man slaughter

better than being an apologist

knock knock

whos at the door

oh it's mr straw man please come in

the dinosaur

regardless

you have an anime pfp

so you're wrong by default

<:GigaLul:363417447078035457>

I AGREE

fuck

he's got us boys

at least i'm not starving

pack up

yeah

those ukrainians lacked food

kind of like how you lack friends

much like how you lack arguements

>communist on the internet saying other people don't have friends

<:GigaLul:363417447078035457> <:GigaLul:363417447078035457>

**w o w**

or a good one for that matter

You didn't make any arguments

Just strawmans

hes at the door again

and you made genocidal apologies and excuses

not very strong arguements to me

I've already explained how it wasn't a genocide

And linked sources

i know he didn't mean to do it

he only killed 30 people its ok

why am i deafened

cuz ur gay

yeah you fucked up m8

Because you're new electric

😦

🤓

mods deafened me for no reason

i want to kms

no

its because you're a newfag

newjew

im not new

<:ThinkStare:368944946725519371>

i just left and joined back

>New User role

>i'm not new

then you're a quiter

<:DabBoi:363745494255665153>

like a relapse to valium

you just came back

>why was i defeaned
>given reason
>i was deafened for no reason
<:GigaLul:363417447078035457>

<:pepespecial:356316713429499905>

I mean guys why is this a discussion I mean this “genocide” happened almost 100 years

Well

Am I under arrest?
yes
why?
for resisting arrest.

Huh

Sorry can you type that again?

White geyescide

Am I under arrest?
yes
why?
for resisting arrest.

84 years ago

no

so when those jfk files coming out

A lot of people got mad just now

And now the discussion isn’t going anywhere

i'm gonna need some proof tommy

Oh no

Well I can make a point

do you have any proof in this vehicle?

Have you ever heard of the long peace?

no

you ever heard of socha?

No what is it?

socha mouth

<:tbhfam:356316888109940738> 💯

Oh

Well is it alright if I can link a article?

ye

i have no permissions so i can't tell you yes or no, but yes

Well others have been doing so why can’t I you know

ye do it