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2017-10-05 13:51:33 UTC

not an argument

2017-10-05 13:51:36 UTC

he saying to hold no one above god

2017-10-05 13:51:41 UTC

where does He say that

2017-10-05 13:51:43 UTC

not to literally not call anyone "father"

2017-10-05 13:51:51 UTC

He literally

2017-10-05 13:51:53 UTC

is talking about the pharisees

2017-10-05 13:52:11 UTC

and says "don't call anyone rabbi [master], because one is your master even Christ, and call no man "father" because one is your FatheR"

2017-10-05 13:52:12 UTC

what he literally says does not matter

2017-10-05 13:52:15 UTC

clearly talking about the pharisees

2017-10-05 13:52:21 UTC

>what he literally says does not matter

2017-10-05 13:52:23 UTC

are you serious?

2017-10-05 13:52:30 UTC

I am so glad to be Protestant

2017-10-05 13:52:37 UTC

A Catholic once told me that the pope was the representation of God in flesh. I dont know too much about mainstream Christianity because they are too pagan for my tastes

2017-10-05 13:52:39 UTC

you cant interpret it exactly as it is said. you have to understand the meaning behind it

2017-10-05 13:52:50 UTC

thats not true about the pope

2017-10-05 13:52:57 UTC

He literally is talking about pharisees

2017-10-05 13:52:58 UTC

and their exesses

2017-10-05 13:53:01 UTC

yes he is

2017-10-05 13:53:02 UTC

and how they demand too much glory

2017-10-05 13:53:05 UTC

yep.

2017-10-05 13:53:11 UTC

and says "don't call anyone rabbi or father" in that context

2017-10-05 13:53:14 UTC

so it's about spiritual authorities

2017-10-05 13:53:19 UTC

yes

2017-10-05 13:53:28 UTC

you can still call your priest father

2017-10-05 13:53:31 UTC

I want a religion of the bible, not of stupid men. I grew up in a cult where the so called leaders don't know shit about the bible.

2017-10-05 13:53:32 UTC

no!

2017-10-05 13:53:36 UTC

Because He just said not to!

2017-10-05 13:53:43 UTC

not literally

2017-10-05 13:53:47 UTC

You can't call your priest "rabbi" or "father" because those are forbidden

2017-10-05 13:53:49 UTC

I'll get the context

2017-10-05 13:54:00 UTC

But

2017-10-05 13:54:10 UTC
2017-10-05 13:54:15 UTC

@BGN kys

2017-10-05 13:54:21 UTC

Fuck you

2017-10-05 13:54:25 UTC

Why do you always ping me

2017-10-05 13:54:27 UTC

lol gay

2017-10-05 13:54:32 UTC

Get a fucking life

2017-10-05 13:54:36 UTC

big post coming

2017-10-05 13:54:40 UTC

You orbit a faggot

2017-10-05 13:54:40 UTC
2017-10-05 13:54:45 UTC

take it to <#356277996274843658>

2017-10-05 13:54:47 UTC

<@&350743889667424256>

2017-10-05 13:55:08 UTC

seriously, take it to <#356277996274843658>

2017-10-05 13:55:09 UTC

As soon as I saw the religion I was in try to get me to swear allegiance to an earthly organisation, I was like "nope, only God/Jesus"

2017-10-05 13:55:27 UTC

"Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,

Saying The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:

All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.

For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.

But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments,

And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues,

And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi.

But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.

And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.

But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant."

2017-10-05 13:55:29 UTC

God is fake

2017-10-05 13:55:29 UTC

here's the context

2017-10-05 13:55:32 UTC

the church is of God. it was the one church founded by Jesus

2017-10-05 13:55:35 UTC

<@&350743889667424256>

2017-10-05 13:55:42 UTC

โ€œAnd I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.โ€ Whoever asked where in the Bible it mentions the creation of a pope thereโ€™s the quote

2017-10-05 13:55:47 UTC

How do you people genuinely believe in a Christian god?

2017-10-05 13:55:59 UTC

Or any god of a religion humans made up

2017-10-05 13:55:59 UTC

I tell you, you are petra, and on this petros I will build my church

2017-10-05 13:56:05 UTC

petra = small stone

2017-10-05 13:56:06 UTC

petros = bedrock

2017-10-05 13:56:13 UTC

I believe in ๐Ÿ…ฑagan gods

2017-10-05 13:56:14 UTC

Jesus is the foundation stone, He's talking about Peter's declaration of faith a verse earlier

2017-10-05 13:56:31 UTC

Peter was the first pope

2017-10-05 13:56:44 UTC

Upon him the church was built

2017-10-05 13:56:50 UTC

"For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ."

2017-10-05 13:56:52 UTC

- Paul

2017-10-05 13:56:56 UTC

so who is the foundation here?

2017-10-05 13:56:58 UTC

Jesus, not Peter

2017-10-05 13:57:07 UTC

The context there doesnt change anything. "call no man your father upon the earth" would immply you cant call your own father father

2017-10-05 13:57:09 UTC

@Rocktomato do you genuinely believe in the Christian god?

2017-10-05 13:57:15 UTC

"And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;"

2017-10-05 13:57:15 UTC

Yes

2017-10-05 13:57:16 UTC

its all about the meaning behund it, not the actual words

2017-10-05 13:57:26 UTC

The Christian God actually exists BGN

2017-10-05 13:57:30 UTC

Lol

2017-10-05 13:57:31 UTC

look into the OT prophecies

2017-10-05 13:57:33 UTC

@BGN Did you unironically read "The God Delusion"

2017-10-05 13:57:39 UTC

I can go through them with you if you are seriously curious

2017-10-05 13:57:46 UTC

>still pinging me

2017-10-05 13:57:56 UTC

I go to a catholic university

2017-10-05 13:57:59 UTC

We're just going to go in circles with this Eust

2017-10-05 13:58:01 UTC
2017-10-05 13:58:01 UTC

>Getting triggered over being pinged

2017-10-05 13:58:05 UTC

I'm gonna respectfully end this debate

2017-10-05 13:58:11 UTC

@Rocktomato Do you believe there is any life outside of earth?

2017-10-05 13:58:12 UTC

@BGN Your teacher isn't a manlet is he

2017-10-05 13:58:14 UTC

No

2017-10-05 13:58:19 UTC

Ah

2017-10-05 13:58:21 UTC

Unlike Christianity we have no evidence

2017-10-05 13:58:49 UTC

Jesus was a space alien

2017-10-05 13:58:52 UTC

So out of the 10x10^23 planets you don't think there's any other life besides here on earth?

2017-10-05 13:59:00 UTC

Not until we have evidence for it

2017-10-05 13:59:20 UTC

1000 000 000 000 000 000 00000

2017-10-05 13:59:22 UTC

honestly who cares about alien life?

2017-10-05 13:59:27 UTC

its a waste of time to worry about it

2017-10-05 13:59:33 UTC

Disagree

2017-10-05 13:59:50 UTC

we have our own problems on earth

2017-10-05 13:59:58 UTC

@BGN Consider the fact that if they are real they're most likely just cellular life.

2017-10-05 13:59:59 UTC

it doesnt matter if there is life out there

2017-10-05 14:00:02 UTC

And I think it's quite foolish to believe there isn't anything out there either

2017-10-05 14:00:06 UTC

it doesnt affect us

2017-10-05 14:00:37 UTC

It may eventually

2017-10-05 14:01:34 UTC

in 1,000,000 years maybe

2017-10-05 14:01:44 UTC

It's kind of like 10 years ago "oh North Korea is a joke, they're no threat" but they did become one eventually

2017-10-05 14:01:45 UTC

Itโ€™s either take the chance that nothing is out there and if youโ€™re wrong youโ€™re burning in hell or just believe and repent, it doesnโ€™t take much and go to heaven if there is one

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