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@Superwalter64 Big Facts

big oof

4 Mins ig lol

I agree with Pain

good point

If no one disagrees someone should play Devil's advocate and larp as a liberal

sharpen our debate skills

what do u guys think about canada's health care system

Crap

It can seem good for shit like a broken arm

Crap for anything more complex

I think the healthcare system should work in increments where everyone is provided with a package that covers all needs and as they move up the economic ladder, they are given more options with their own advantages.

So capitalism?

More money you make the more services you get?

No, not quite. Any procedure or need would be covered with the provided, initial system.

lmao

I like this already

I liken the system to progression in a video game. When you initially begin in the game, you're provided with basic weapons and a minimal amount of money, enough to progress in the game. As you continue in your journey, you gain more resources and no longer need to use the basic armor provided. The point being that you need basic armor if you want any chance of progression.

I have good examples of socialized healthcare which worked. One example, Nazi Germany.

Good point @KARMAAA

Please do not evoke Nazism to make your point.

It is a cancer. People will never want to reduce services once we have it.

It's an example of Goodwin's law.

I was joking @Survivor

I figured

Sorry lol

It's difficult to tell with text and the lack of emotional inflection.

@PainSeeker5 Speak up I can barely hear you.

Who decides what the stupid stuff is

That's completely reasonable, since you don't need that for your survival.

sorry @Pathless

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@Mord Who decides who eats healthy enough

I agree that aesthetics should not be covered. That's like changing the hat of your game character. You don't need a hat to progress in the game.

I do disagree with the obesity example, since many obese people suffer from glandular disorders.

are u trolling

It's definitely not common sense, some people tell me eggs are unhealthy

what is up with the video game analogies

I like to make analogies to emphasize my points.

If I eat McDonalds once a week, is that healthy enough? Should govt monitor my diet? @Mord

Ideally, we should be trying to create medical technology to annihilate obesity while suffering no repercussions for eating anything.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/study-medicare-for-all-would-cost-32-6-trillion-over-ten-years/

It's not fair that our bodies are so incompetent at dealing with foods of certain composition.

it's only 32 trillion not that much my goy

Why shouldn't they be allowed to receive it? @Transgender individuals

Democrats will never stop. They will make up new "rights" like the right to not be ugly. Therefore plastic surgery should be free.

I legitimately am curious as to this.

It's Stalinism, technically.

Economic leftism and social rightism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TODyyR5GRqw&t=8s

Insurance companies are creating incentives to be healthy

May someone please answer the question I'm asking? Why shouldn't transgender individuals be entitled to universal health care, if in a hypothetical universe cisgender individuals can receive it?

For example if you're on weight watchers you can get cheaper insurance

Or if you're a good driver, you get better rates. Insurance aligns everyone's incentive

@Survivor What do you mean

I believe someone here said that if for example the universal health provisions disallowed transgenders from receiving treatment, that Democrats likely would want to amend this for transgenders to receive it as well, and it was said in a tone that implied this would be unfavorable. @Supreme Leader Kim 🧧

It's why I feel we should be funding technology to annihilate health issues heavily.

For example, technology to annihilate obesity.

Technology to annihilate diabetes.

The free market would incentivize being healthy

Technology to annihilate heart disease.

Universal health incentivizes bad habits

We shouldn't have to endure the nightmares of prevention if we can completely annihilate the conditions.

Law of economics: Whatever you tax, you get less of. Whatever you subsidize, you get more of. Universal health would subsidize bad habits because it has no economic impact to you.

can we talk about something controversial

this is boring

I think some people do care, but they're enraged by the amount of prevention that's required.

Depression is not a tangible disease akin to obesity.

And people do not just decide to be obese. There are a number of factors co-existing with each other that lead to it.

Such as genetics, concurrent health conditions, complications

Mental health is radical subjectivism

100lb overweight is an extreme

Yeah, it's extremely subjective and the state weaponizes it.

@Supreme Leader Kim 🧧

What if we can make it so that we don't suffer health consequences from being sedentary, due to advanced medical technology

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@Virulent what if I choose that job because I like sitting down all day

The system of treating the mentally ill is so drastically broken now

@Virulent As I said, what if we can alter our bodies so that we no longer suffer ill effects from our actions and choices?

good points @Chilliam Ace

Build the wall

@Virulent based and redpilled

i hate my mic

i agree

We all do

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We need to find a way to fully annihilate it out of existence, rather than continue relying purely on antibiotics.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/promise/1403/limit-legal-immigration/