China

Fascism

Ok

CGHINA

@Logical-Scholar hmm what would you change in the balkans?

because many was residing in Argentina and Spain through the cold war

The government monitors every citizen at all times

And keeps scores

I'd wish to change Croatia @Gen_Boi

Lol
Libertarians unitonically think Fascism, Communism, etc = all the same, das authoritarianism

Das authority

@Logical-Scholar what would you like to see happen?

Do you believe a company could exert the same time of control China does over its citizens

type*

Eh

I already explained, I want the Catholic church to pass more legislative for my state

If they became big enough

Sure why not

Ok so no company has ever come close

And have a reinstalled Crna Legija

Like

Not even a fraction

@Supreme Leader Kim 🧧 you haven’t addressed the issue of monopolies or trusts

When will people remember that separation of church and state is about preventing heads of state from being heads of the church

you dislike monopolies yet push for the most violent monopoly of all

"hurr durr no religion in muh politics"

Don’t dodge the prompt

im not

im pointing out the flaw in logic

nah, a state answers to god, a corporation answers to shareholders

Your concern is monopolies then support the state which has monopoly over violence over a geographical region, by definition

Since 99% of shareholders are sociopaths they usually see themselves as Gods

@Supreme Leader Kim 🧧 so you are unironically saying companies do not have control over distribution of information in the world today

God why are lolbertarians such brainlets

literally never said that

good straw man attempt though

@Noxar Are you finally waking a bit up when it comes to American Capitalism?

@Noxar VERY few of them are actually powerful, namely Google and Facebook. Amazon is getting there but they do not have much control over what we see on the internet as much as the first two. Convensional news media is much worse, especially in the rural areas.

@Logical-Scholar what do you mean by that

By what?

Did you guys that Apple actually just set an insanely high new record for market caps? About a week ago, well over the 1 trillion PetroChina did in 2007

Saying to noxar

Please quote where I said anything similar to that

But Trump economy bad

real bad

I gave you example of company controlling much of the world, you asked me if I believe a company could have the power of government could ever exist.

Those companies now have the same power as governments had for ages.

So you don't really care as long as "it's not the government" lol @Supreme Leader Kim 🧧

Republicans blindly support Capitalism so they won't change the amount of lobbying

Lobbying made by individuals

Lobbying bad

Capitalism is pro immigration

almost as if the state doesn't have any power anymore

And that @thrill_house

@Noxar My argument is no company has ever come close to the size and scope of government. You are delusional if you think Apple or Google have more power than government

Do any of you know of peter zeihan???

Anything that is pro immigration you should be against

@Supreme Leader Kim 🧧 Not one company alone no

I have never said companies have no power, what's with the strawmanning

Hes a conservacuck who doesn't see skin color @thrill_house

@Supreme Leader Kim 🧧 they literally do In regards to sharing of information and communication

@Gopnik_Conscript

Many different companies have their go to congressman for lobbying @Supreme Leader Kim 🧧

@thrill_house lmao

Lobbying is the single worst thing in America. Worse than the middle east wars.

Ok so they have power in one dimension, government has power in every dimension

Governments answer to God and to citizens, corporations do neither

@Logical-Scholar correct, which is why you should oppose the state

@Logical-Scholar this nigger just sent me an unsolicited invite in dms. i only share TRS with them. pls make it stop

Corporations do whatever makes them more powerful and richer

We are with the leftists on this one

My argument against the State is it will be corrupted

It is childish to believe the State will defend you

@Darkstar explain this https://youtu.be/qd5-qspfKtc

Even the USA which I love is a cesspool of corruption

@Supreme Leader Kim 🧧 Maybe Chinese government but definitely not the US government.

@Supreme Leader Kim 🧧 Anarchism would experience rather difficult issues in the realm of national security

@Supreme Leader Kim 🧧 and last time I checked there exist other companies than Google etc. Even in different industries! (Shocking I know) and guess what, they control those too!

So at the end of the day average people have no say anymore because regardless who they elect the corporations change so much of what they may promise by bribery @Supreme Leader Kim 🧧

@PainSeeker5 If you want I have a free book which covers all these concerns

and politicians don't care at the end of the day

*Anarchist Cook Book*

All of our representatives are bought and paid for by the local corporation which has a monopoly on your community

@Logical-Scholar you have a say with your wallet, believe it or not. Do you believe it would have no effect if we all boycotted Google?

social media outlets like twitter and facebook should be forced to respect free speech

We aren't represented by anyone with our best interests in heart

@Gen_Boi if they become public entities

Even Trump is controlled opposition

<:dynoSuccess:314691591484866560> ***Andy C. Might#2325 was banned***

https://youtu.be/feU7HT0x_qU

Corporations like ISP's now have power to block websites people visit that seems like a long of infringing upon freedom of speech

@Noxar What's your argument? You are straw manning all over the place which makes me not want to respond to you

@PainSeeker5 well at this point they can basically be considered public space

@Supreme Leader Kim 🧧 lol noone is going to boycott Google. There is literally NO incentive for 99% of people to do anything against them, they are addicted and dependant on services those companies provide

Yea especially if they are in the pockets of politicians/government officials

Whomst was Andy C Might

He invited me to a server

Yeah exactly he dm invites

@Noxar nothing is too big to fall though

so he is gone

@PainSeeker5 Essentially, defense is more efficient than offense. It wouldn't be expensive to set up private defense. Think of how impossible invading the US would be when everyone is armed.

I mean except banks @PainSeeker5

Always chance for new faces to take up and replace these companies

@SchloppyDoggo So he is gone

Also voting for you local government is a lot more important than voting for a president

@Noxar Do you still use Google?

@Pgro what

Banks fall

2007

What they got bailed out

@squash1 Eh depends what state you are from

what are you talking about

@Logical-Scholar yea man, invite dm spam is terrible but if u turn off dms from ppl u share servers with u rly cant use discord properly. no way to rly stop it but thx

Like bailing out did fuck all

@squash1 local government should have more power then they do

The feds do very little to effect our everyday lives

Locals do a lot

@Noxar You are coming from a high ground that Google is brainwashing everyone, how do you know people don't use it because they like the service?

btfo dm invite spam niggers

Feds are great

^ this

I only got DMs for friends @SchloppyDoggo I only use this server primarily so if someone wants to tell me something they can do it here

I didn't get invited <:feelspepoman:385617707044962304>

but only the ones that are not paid off by the clintons @Outboarduniform

Ok

unless they in my contacts

The bailout was to literally prevent currency from deflating i have no idea how you get the idea

<:thistbh:356316832048742412>

https://youtu.be/V_aE0OXY5o4 @Supreme Leader Kim 🧧

@SchloppyDoggo so like 99 % of them I guess

Oh that's why I have friends only on

The banks did fail

@PainSeeker5 oh yeah? Tell me WHO has the money and popularity to finance all the infrastructure, all the super servers and thousands of employees to take on Google?

And why in the hell would anyone switch to this new company? All their friends and correspondence is already channeled, set up and working. @Supreme Leader Kim 🧧

Which banks failed in 2007

Anyways my argument is simple: government is easily corruptible. If you're concerned about monopolies, why would you advocate for the worst monopoly of all? Which history shows sides with the other monopolies. State is not your friend, don't be a child and believe that.

Oops

Banks are all built up on the idea that our dollar is actually worth something

Supreme leader is some sort of anarchist ?

@Noxar they don’t exist yet at least in my eyes

I am an anarchist

@Logical-Scholar i tried doing the same thing and only accepting dms from friends to prevent dm invite spam - cause i get maybe 6 a day from the crypto servers im in.

MySpace was pretty big then came FaceBook

Imagine if tomorrow we just said "let's go with crypto"

Ban @Supreme Leader Kim 🧧

Pedophile @Supreme Leader Kim 🧧

anarchist scum!! WE SHALL HAVE LAW AND ORDER!@!!

@PainSeeker5 and they never will exist

@Zionist no libel

@SchloppyDoggo Are they using bots to try DM you?

@Noxar That's up to you to solve if it bothers you so much. Create a better company.

They are monopolies

because surely it can't block DM bots

@Noxar be more optimistic

Crypto needs to make it

@Logical-Scholar yea i think the crypto invites are all bots using regular discord user accts

@Supreme Leader Kim 🧧 are you autistic

It's literally impossible
You would realize that if you ever made any research into how all the server infrastructure is run etc.

I have no problem with Google relative to my problem with the (((state)))

So if I program a bot to DM someone but they turn off DMs with server shared it won't reach them?

@Logical-Scholar who's been the best EPL player this season so far?

Yah I think so

@Noxar Ok nostradamus, then pile your net worth in Google stocks and wait 20 years

@Supreme Leader Kim 🧧 you need to do your resaerch more about google then

ive been sayin it for months now, the USD will hyperinflate and become worthless in the next 20 years. crypto will have extreme value when this happens. if you dont own crypto now, you are NOT planning on a good financial future.

@Zionist Arguably Hazard

Yeah...

<:GWragTbhfam:390321741525942272>

You guys better literally have your net worths in Google stocks

I mean he got topscorer

You seem pretty confident they'll be around and dominant in 20 years

If there’s anything people are terrible at it’s predicting the future

Hazards a beast

Yeah and he's more of a playmaker than a scorer.

Chelsea can be glad Man City and Liverpool tied @Zionist

@Supreme Leader Kim 🧧 what brainlet would do that, googles stock remains stable, there is no competition

@Noxar ?

@Outboarduniform forecasting disasters is the science of the rich elites. also, read The Fourth Turning

Yeah, we got the first position with gd. @Logical-Scholar

>Googlea

You just made the case why no one could compete with Google, why wouldn't you pile your money on Google stocks?

Are you new to this?

The only prediction I listen to and read is revelations

I hope it goes for either Chelsea or Liverpool this season

@Supreme Leader Kim 🧧 because it's not lucrative

@Outboarduniform if that was the case then you'd already have figured out that in revelations the one world currency is going to be a CRYPTO

Anything but not ManCity @Logical-Scholar

Btw Mitrovic was the clown of the match with Arsenal @Zionist

investing in a monopoly for the next 100 years is not lucrative, ok then tell me what's lucrative

Why? @Logical-Scholar

Offsides, handballs, disposessed a lot

>companies only care about profit
>google will have a monopoly forever
>it's not lucrative to buy Google stock

You know what? I think aubameyang needs a better team.

and he had several shots off target

Obamayang is good

@SchloppyDoggo monopoly is yellow journalism

Did you see the build up for Ramsey's gaol? @Zionist was funny tricking

Yeah

That was creative

Feds are ubermenschen

I started laughing as soon as it went in

happy to see arsenal doing well

@Zionist why like the Fed?

9 wins in a row was it

?

@Supreme Leader Kim 🧧 you can make much more money in less time by investing in new stocks or if you know certain industry well

Either way, stocks should be banned, stock exchange is nothing but glorified gambling and usury is just fraud.

lol

yeah this conversation is beneath me

sorry bud

Faggot

“This conversation is beneath me”

<:FeelsLELMan:356316501105442817>

>companies only care about profit
>google will have a monopoly forever
>it's not lucrative to buy Google stock

the logic is overwhelming

I just wanted to make the things balanced @PainSeeker5

k

@Supreme Leader Kim 🧧 you didn't read what I said brainlet

As all things should be

Thanos wasn’t wrong

This guy believes the stock market is usury, don't see why I'd bother

Balance is important

@Outboarduniform Better than acting like you know everything

@Gen_Boi still Arsenal will be on #5/6

The profit takes too long to materialize and it's not big due to the stock being stable and unchanging @Supreme Leader Kim 🧧

@squash1 okay ?

You believe the stock market should be banned, sounds like you're a communist

You believe the state should be banned, sounds like you’re retarded

@Supreme Leader Kim 🧧 no

keep worshipping (((your rulers)))

Sad!

@Supreme Leader Kim 🧧 lol

>companies only care about profit
>google will have a monopoly forever
>it's not lucrative to buy Google stock

please defend this Noxar

Is supreme a satirical account?

"you can make more money buying small stocks" is the rebuttal

*YEA LETS DO ANARCHISM GUYS* Perfect rationality doesn't exist in human form. People sacrifice the long term for short term interests. We need the force of the law. Humans are emotional, make decisions based on imperfect knowledge, and even some based on pleasure seeking in the short run. @Supreme Leader Kim 🧧

Sad!

@Supreme Leader Kim 🧧 stocks are literally glorified gambling.
It shifts wealth to the hands of few, it doesn't benefit the society as a whole.

For each person who gains from trading stocks, many more have to lose. @Supreme Leader Kim 🧧

@Zionist i hope not. they're my favourite team in britain

You just said you can make more money buying stocks if you know the industry, then call it gambling

Make up your mind

all u had to do was listen

@Supreme Leader Kim 🧧 it's still gambling, your knowledge can be wrong

Making money in this context means expected value

I don't expect you to understand what that means

@Gen_Boi they will. Lol.

And most stocks are traded without knowing said industry, it's decided based on past history of the stock, if it's volatile etc

>100 years of data showing stocks growing over time
>it's gambling

Stock value is literally based on speculations

Address my point Supreme

@PainSeeker5 repeat it please