i've done that

btw

6yrs

i sincerely doubt you had no human interaction at all

What is determinism and how is using science to understand humans that?

I don't understand what's going on

also you might not be entirely neurotypical so thats also something to consider

"neurotypical"

anything i can think, you can think

Eris you're dodging my question

theres no reason if the rest of the world is deterministic, humans arent

either everything is deterministic or nothing is

unless you can draw a clear line defining what makes humans separate

and what defines a human

a human being is a soul

so where evolutionarily does a soul become part of humanity

along the line of human ancestors

>evolution

lol

what

do i have to add young earther to my list of things i have to keep in mind when talking to you

no

Eris wtf is determinism and why do you hate it so much?

google it retard

:/

I can't google why you hate something so much

And if I grab the definition straight from your words it helps me understand where you're coming from a bit better\

wtf

a deterministic thing will always give the same outputs for the same inputs

it is an object which acts as it is caused to act

You were making that same case when you were telling Bata that she was going to 100% kill hersel

Like how is your argument any different

She can not kill herself if she decides not to

She's not deciding not to.

also its not a complete binary between determinism and free will

🆙 | **Fluffles leveled up!**

yes it is

Eris what happens when someone's choices are influenced by their environment?

they are wholly exclusive

@ninjatomnein they aren't

theres determinism with randomness

Someone who is in a great deal of pain would more often choose to kill themselves

"more often choose"

theres free will with influence

That doesn't reduce free will

people aren't dice

there is no chance involved

There are factors though

no

the only factor is choice

That is not the only factor

yes, it is.

all other factors are illusory

"Everything is an illusion man"

except for choice

What happens when you choose something and don't get it?

Is that an illusion as well?

Did you just not choose hard enough?

eris if i make my choices based on the results im trying to get

is that still free will

yes

okay so if outside factors influence the results im tryna get

but it's stupid free will

nah it makes sense

i want a certain thing

outside factors aren't influencing

you're choosing

so im going to make decisions to get towards that thing

yeah

that's not influence

that's a choice

but different outside factors would influence my choices

no they won't

A very basic one: What to eat for dinner

You can't pick absolutely anything

whatever you choose to eat

There are limitations provided by your environment

As well as your resources

no

Yes

no

I can't have 5 star steak if I live on the street

sure you can

Even if I really want to

there's just a lot more involved in that choice

XD

read this

And many things completely out of your control in that instant

"Here a comic will explain my autism on this subject"

read it

i aint debating this with you eris

cool

then stay in the shithole

just let me back into the normal chat and lemme add "applying science to humans" to the list of subjects not to talk about

I still don't get what you're on about tbh

read it

I did fucking read it cunt

then be less retarded

lemmeee ouuutttt

no