Well sure I guess Slavery to serve a punishment isn’t so bad

@DoobyCooby My point exactly

slavery also allowed people who were starving to serve a wealthier man who could provide for them, and then start off again in 7-20 years with money, even possibly land.

Because it is very profitable for a select few who pay off republicans to allow further exploration of the incarcerated population

Yea no

way different than straight up kidnapping or buying someone to use as slaves

@Silver And the democrats? No democrat opposes this legal allowance of slavery

Not in 99.9999% of the cases

They do

Show please?

Have you seen all those prison reform shits?

Which democrat has proposed legislation to remove this?

AOC duh

Link?

So the taxpayer should support them while they sip coffee in a prison yard?

😂😂😂😂😂

AOC?

Second, to remove this legal slavery from U.S law - since it is in the consitition would require a constitional amendment

Virtually impossible nowadays

Alexandria Ocasio Cortez?

Yes

That’s who you bring in?

@Silver

I just asked who proposed legislation to remove it from law

I dont care who

The woman who lied at a border fence.

@Silver Has she proposed legislation, or just talked about it?

imo we should abolish prisons

replace them with labor camps

damn

Prisons are inherently bad.

You’re going straight up Stalin on our asses

Punishment should be fast.

@DoobyCooby Hear me out

That doesn't lead to rehabilitation and just perpetuates criminality

Lashings, whips, even crucifixion for rapists and murderers.

Fast, painful and quick.

Don’t drag it out

Prisoners do nothing 22 hours a day, just socialize with other criminals and form gangs.
@DoobyCooby Why not put them to work? Im not talking about cruel working conditions that break backs

Assembly lines, logging, mining

Yeah that sounds alright

Better than giving it to illegals

Dont get into illegals just yet

lets focus on prisoners

Lols

Least it’s not the “work faster or we’ll shoot you in each limb” kind of thing

They should be compensated for their labor, so they can re-enter society as a functional person

I could agree with that.

@DoobyCooby And instead of "timed" sentences, such as say 5 years

Instead it should be monetary

So lets say you commit a crime

And how it would be evaluted is a whole nother beast

But for the sake of exampple

We'll say your crime is $40,000

What about really rich people. They could theoretically rape a little girl and pay it off.

So you must preform $40,000 worth of manual labor

@Attika true

So until you work to produce $40,000 worth of goods, you are not free

This way, hard work means you are released faster

and lazy prisoners can stay for life if they refuse to work

What about the elderly? Or juveniles?

@Attika Read what i say again

@Silver Work will match their skill

man
hard work really does set you free

No I think I’m starting to get it.

So buffed workers can harder work

You can’t pay you’re way.

Yes

And you cant just "wait" it out either

You have to work for your freedom

You could have 500 million dollars. But you still have to work 50 grand worth.

Yes

If some criminal cannot work manually, genuinely, they can be assigned to mental labor

Juveniles could get reduced fees. Elderly...

🤷🏼‍♂️

Elderly can be assigned mental labor

No prison should be about rehabilitation, social care, making sure there is less recividism

Less crime

😂

In short

Functional penal system

@Silver Manual Labor could work in conjunction with rehabilitation

The 2 are not at odds

Lols. So the guy who killed a guy and raped his wife should get what? A slap on the wrist and a visit to a phycologist?

I agree if the person is compensated and isn't forced

It's not forced

It's still prison

It's up to them to earn their freedom

A lazy person who has $10,000 worth to work off can be in prison for life if he refuses to work

Up to the individual

So prisoners can theoretically stay in prison indefinitely, draining funds from the state, real smath

But they stay there for life.

Boxed up in an itty bitty cell.

Better to choose death.

@Silver Okay, so then they forced to work if they do not work off their sentence at a similar pace as other prisoners

I also think you should be able to pay it off via old fashioned punishment.

What if they’re about to reach their required net worth and they get seriously hurt to the point they can’t work
or let’s say it messess them up physically and mentally?

So? It's bad economically, morally and results in recividism

@DoobyCooby They can be taken care of in recovery until they are able to work again, if they are permanently handicapped both physically and mentally - they go to a care home because they cant readjust into society anyways